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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:06 am | |
| Joe,
They can pick up a phone. We need to get a grip. A website not working is hardly a disaster let alone a total one. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:31 am | |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:52 am | |
| 11/21/2013 This is too funny even for me , a man in Colorado signs up for health insurance through exchange, his dog got the insurance read it , its funny ! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/21/colorado-man-informed-his-dog-has-successfully-signed-up-for-obamacare/ Cheers..Joe... |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:08 am | |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:41 am | |
| You seem right on to me, DK |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:50 am | |
| 11/21/2013 DK... Sounds like your on a tare, come on , the story only states the man put in for insurance for himself and used his dog's name for his password , the Exchange screwed it up and put his dog's name for the insurance, all I'm trying to point out is these exchanges do screw up ! It's not the man's fault nor your nutty antics about Fox News nor the Republicans compared to that crackpot Harry Reid , who next year will be out of office... Cheers..Joe... |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:54 am | |
| Right at this moment, Harry Reid is one of my heroes. It was definitely time to go nuclear. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:59 am | |
| 11/21/2013 2014 will be interesting , half the democrats will be out of office including Reid, Pelosi ! Right now their scared to death elections coming up and the health care failing and stabbing them in the back, boy the white house knows how to ignore their good friends, they don't have to worry their not running and next year it's predicted 5-10 Million People will loose their health insurance , that's alot of mad people... Cheers...Joe... |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:28 pm | |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:37 pm | |
| Joe,
Have you lost your insurance? Do you know personally anyone who has lost theirs? You seem overjoyed at the failure of the Insurance plan. Why? If we were at war, would you cheer if we lost? We need to be behind everyone having insurance--it is a worthy goal. I don't wish to be backward. Why not look at this as a war against sick folks and sick kids? Would you cheer if the sick lost their homes, lives because of no insurance? The opposition has no plan |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:39 pm | |
| 11/21/2013 Yes I know people in this town who were dropped from their insurance, their mad as a hatter...I feel they should have in 3 years researched all the countries around the world and see how they created theirs, No I haven't lost mine because I'm retired Medicare, let's see if they try to screw with that one , what gets me angry is everytime the govt. tries to do something they a polite word screw it up, waste hundreds of millions of dollars in tax papers money, come on get real all they have to do is stop it, re-create it but with a single payer plan and keep the govt. out of it , they really don't know what their doping ? Time will tell...Oh yes I don't listen to Rush , can't stand his loud mouth ! Cheers..Joe.. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:56 pm | |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:27 pm | |
| 11/21/2013 DK,,, You've gone way over the edge, I think you have Republicans on the brain, maybe you should talk to a therapist, you rant and you rave, yet the truth shall set you free, the govt. is a big " SCREW UP !" Cheers...Joe.... |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:14 pm | |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:22 pm | |
| 11/21/2013 My stories are based on news items wether they are from Huffington, Aljazeers Who I believe tells many stories the other news medias don't cover. And just to think I was going to prose to you....Oh my God, I have to think this one through.. I still love ya ........Cheers..Joe... |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:17 pm | |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:28 pm | |
| 11/22/2013 What is ditto ? Is that vulgar ? Cheers..Joe... |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:16 am | |
| Joe, to my knowledge, "Ditto" means "the same". Do you think that is vulgar?
Concerning the ACA (Obama Care), I think we have beat this subject to death. Most here have expressed their views and a repetition of the same is not worthy of a post. DK and I happen to be in agreement on this subject, so whatever DK posts or intended to post, I agree with it in advance. Whatever she wrote that she deleted I'm sure it was something that I would have agreed with and therefore my "Ditto'. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:19 am | |
| I wish DK had left her post-- I would have agreed with it also. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:26 am | |
| My apologies to those who are able to read facts and respond with facts of their own when opinions differ, as they often do. When posts result in personal attacks recommending that I see a therapist and other nonsense, I find posting less valuable all around. I feel a commitment to providing factual information when people toss out numbers and situations that are anecdotal but don't provide a realistic tool for evaluation or quote legitimate sources for their claims.
False and misleading information affects those who "lurk" as well as those who post. As a writer I feel an obligation to post factual information. I am a person, not a label.
I spent 51 years working with governments in this country and outside this country. I find the majority of people employed have the same earnest effort as people in any other occupation - the same mix of dedicated people and slackers. Government entities at all levels do impact every aspect of our life because this nation is complex and diverse. Of course they may be improved; but overall, most perform admirably and often under the most demanding of circumstances.
Those who constantly malign all government services need to move to the wilderness and live in survivalist mode, perhaps a wilderness in another country. Those people at least live in a way that reflects their belief in no government. Don't build a cabin and drive into town to collect social security - or food stamps when the wild game is depleted.
The ACA has provided major improvements to health care, lowering costs of health care and insuring those who were desperate before its implementation. It is a cobbled together act to please everyone and thus not pleasing everyone. Obviously, it will have glitches.
Most businesses are given the first few years to make a profit; the ACA was deemed a failure by self-serving political opposition (representing profit entities) before it was even implemented. That is pure political chicanery and I am sick of this country's orientation toward destroying benefits for the pure purpose of political gain - benefits for the least able. The purposeful maligning of the ACA frightens people from seeking needed insurance. It is unconscionable.
The rest of us can get a new insurance policy; we can pay a little more if necessary; we can change doctors; we can drive to a new hospital; we can fly to a special physician. We have options. We can re-prioritize our expenses. I have a 10% deductible on my house insurance now to lower it's cost - but I have a place to live. I switched to an HMO for health care. I will have frustration I'm sure - but I will have health care. I drive a 70,000 mile auto and likely will take it to 200,000 but I have reliable transportation. When will people who have options stop dismissing the less able and recognize but for the grace of God that could be any one of us?
ACA is first to benefit people with limited options. When it fails in an incident it is because the developers had no crystal ball for every instance. Failures will be addressed. It's biggest failure in my book was the lack of funds to explain and promote it to the public before implementation.
Women went to work during World War II and were sent back to the kitchen when it was over, all through U.S. government propaganda. Call it lies. Call it whatever one wants. Propaganda can be used to accomplish good as well as bad.
I find that local, state and federal government makes my life more comfortable and safer. These entities are not a mess; their issues are more complex because they serve the public and cannot take chances and follow short cuts permitted to private businesses.
I am personally tired of fault finding and searching for the incidental and anecdotal failures of programs designed to serve the least able among us. These issues are multiplied in the sectors that impact the wealthiest individuals but they have lawyers and accountants to help them. The least able among us have only you and me to fight for them. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:38 am | |
| 11/22/2013 One last word on this I just read to my amazement and shock ! John Bohener signed up for the health care act, I'm in a state of shock ! He stated it took him four hours, one phone call and finally he joined, I guess he dropped his govt. insurance ? DK....I do humbly apologize to you, I know your a great compassionate lady and I admire you for that....So sorry... Cheers...Joe... |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:47 am | |
| Thank you, DK, for summing the situation op so completely. Very well said. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:24 am | |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:55 am | |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obama Care More Problems, Keep Your Insurance Will Fail Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:13 am | |
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