American oil

Gordon,
when you talk about avoiding meat, that is almost like talking about gun control. Incidentally, James Garner was a meat advocate and did commercials promoting beef. Then he had a heart attack and his promotion stopped.

Remember that everything in moderation is OK. That includes the use of oil, meat, and for some, even sex & chocolate. Perhaps only using the gun to shoot a few people might be considered "moderate use."

Actually, non meat eaters are healthier people. But just as I'm not about to give up sex, as long as I can still remember what that is, I am not going to give up eating meat - in moderation. I do avoid red meat.

You can eliminate my vehicle, my heat, even my coffee. But don't mess with my meat or my guns!!

I don't care about any of that stuff, but when Abe says I have to be moderate in eating chocolate, I'm up in arms!

Just for you, Dick:

I wasn't trying to sugguest that we give up meat. It's just a fact that it takes less land to feed a person on a vegitarian diet than a person on a meat diet. Meat in moderation is ok, but I don't think a diet made up of 80% or 90% meat is very good for your health. I guess too much of anything is bad for you.

I decided to cut out the middleman and just start eating carbon.

This was influenced by my neighbor buying a new barbecue grill.

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I decided to cut out the middleman and just start eating carbon.

LOL - That's like salting your beer and pouring it down the toilet!

Phil Whitley wrote:

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I decided to cut out the middleman and just start eating carbon.

LOL - That's like salting your beer and pouring it down the toilet!

Brew, I thought that was all beer was for, anyway. You only rent it long enough for your kidneys to flush it!

lin wrote:

I decided to cut out the middleman and just start eating carbon.

This was influenced by my neighbor buying a new barbecue grill.

Actually, everything you eat has carbon in it. All organic compounds contain carbon, therefore anything that ever was part of a living organism contains carbon. It's the compound carbon dioxide that's contributing to the greenhouse effect and thus global warming, not elemental carbon.

Gordon,
Thanks for setting that straight.

By the way, turns out HDTV's have a gas in them that's about 100 times worse than CO2 for the ozone and environment.

And sooner or later, they're going to end up crushed in land fills.

What kind of HDTVs contain the nasty gas? There are many differnt types, LCD, Plasma, DLP, Cathode Tube, ect. Of course, I don't really understand what's so bad about standard definition. I don't get why people think they need to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a new TV just becaus it's got a somewhat sharper picture or a bigger screen. I guess I'm out of date, I still watch a standard definition cathode tube TV that's over 10 years old, but it still works so why buy a new one? Besides, there usually isn't anything worth watching on.

Some alarming facts about petrolium:
-Since the first oil well was drilled in the 1800's the volume of oil used worldwide is equal to 30 times the volume of Lake Erie!
-Currently every year, the world consumes 30 billion barrles of oil. That's 1,260,000,000,000 gallons!
-A 42 gallon barrel of oil will yield only 14 gallons of gasoline, but the remainder is used to make everything from diesel fuel to plastics.
-Americans consume 25% of the world's oil currently.
-Recently, the price of oil exceeded $140 a barrel, but back in 1995, only 13 years ago, oil cost only $17 per barrel. That's an increase of more than 823% in just 13 years!

It's even more depressing. We will hit the peak and start to decline in the next five years...as demand accelerates upward.

The current world production of 85 million barrels a day is about all that can really happen, we'll probably never hit 100.

The last really big deposit was discovered in the forties. Tapping smaller fields will be more expensive. The ride is over. Yet the biggest mass of the world's population is just starting to buy automobiles.

And we've pretty well demonstrated that we will kill to get our hands on it.

And unfortunately, a great many people would probably be willing to kill to keep their big SUVs and Hummers and all their other gas guzzling toys. Unfortunately, there is a large percentage of the population that just doesn't want to change.