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Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:18 am | |
| Borders in trouble:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/13/borders-bankruptcy-on-cards-in-us
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:37 am | |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:51 am | |
| Borders was the store that I did my first and last book signing. They had my books in stock. I don't believe that contributed to their bankruptcy. Pehaps there will be a price reduction. |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:11 pm | |
| Eh, whatever. Locally owned independent bookstores will fill the void. They were there long before Borders and will be there long after them. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:49 pm | |
| Time will tell! Along came Amazon, Kindle, etc... |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:25 pm | |
| Borders handled a signing for me and stiffed me for $250.00 for books they purchased from me, stocked and sold (purchased from me as the distributor) and then did not pay the invoice - passed it "up the line" so far it disappeared. I understand they stiffed a few others as well. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:51 pm | |
| 2/17/2011
We'll Borders here in Santa Fe is closing, I know someone who just became a manager two months ago, now she'll be out of a job..
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Borders-to-close-Sanbusco-location-
Cheers..Joe |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| Two are closing here. Won't be any in the area. That leaves B & N and Books a Million. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:25 pm | |
| 2/17/2011
DK.
I read Amazon is killing them off one by one, plus the book publishing world is changing at a rapid fast pace.
Cheers..Joe |
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dmondeo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1485 Registration date : 2009-02-15 Age : 69 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:40 am | |
| I don't think Amazon is to blame here, there are many online book retailers that have appeared over the years and most of the big book chains have online stores now. It is the recession that has clinched it. Borders folded in the UK around Christmas 2009. I used to service their alarms in the London branches and it was evident they have been reducing their stocks for a long time. Their stores were always very big, bigger than some local town libraries. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:01 am | |
| And B&N isn't doing that well, either. The center down the road from my subdivision that opened in early '09 still has a huge empty building for lease because B&N decided not to open there after all.
Ann |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:19 am | |
| My understanding is that the Nook and ebooks gave B & N a boost that it needed. I received an email from the Borders CEO to members pushing their online store and ebooks during chapter 11. That emphasis might save them for the future but as a smaller voice since there are so many already working the online and ebook market. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:04 am | |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:45 am | |
| I agree with Zizban. Independent bookstores -the ones Borders put out of business- will come back to fill the void. DK, apparently Borders has stiffed publishers for millions of dollars, consider yourself lucky for just losing $250. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:10 am | |
| 2/17/2011
Another reason I read is people would go in have coffee read books for free then don't buy them, I've seen it here at Borders, which surprised me...
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 am | |
| - joefrank wrote:
- 2/17/2011
Another reason I read is people would go in have coffee read books for free then don't buy them, I've seen it here at Borders, which surprised me...
Cheers..Joe I wonder how many books were ruined from the coffee stains and spills. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:24 am | |
| Yes, browsing at the bricks and mortar stores and then buying at Amazon has hurt them. Perhaps the new bookstore owners will shrinkwrap all books, just keeping one out for page browsing. Or maybe they'll have screens for electronic browsing, and a slightly cheaper purchasing option from their own websites. |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:53 am | |
| I read that Borders owes various publishers something north of $200 million. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:00 pm | |
| Pretty bad--doesn't make me wish to open a book store. |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:11 pm | |
| Opening a bookstore can work, like any other business, if you can fill a niche. The Borders closed here ages ago and it was replaced by two independent bookstores that are thriving. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:33 pm | |
| There was an article about this in today's WSJ. The publishers were quoted as being as worried about one less outlet to display/promote their books as they were collecting monies owed them. They said that the main way to sell books is through physical display outlets.
Doesn't sound like a rousing endorsement for the Amazon/Smashwords/Lulu school of thought that says books can be sold there just as easily. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:11 pm | |
| Where the advertising dollars point is where the buyers will go. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:23 pm | |
| Oh, I agree. But they can't advertise every book. They never have and never will. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:25 pm | |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Borders files for bankruptcy Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:27 pm | |
| Here is the challenge: a way to introduce new books digitally that is as impressive as the front tables at the big box book sellers. Amazon tries with it's pages - but innovation is needed. |
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