| | South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds | |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:03 am | |
| 6/7/2014 Thousands of South American Illegals are being dumped by the Federal Govt. in states Ca., Az, NY, etc. These young illegals came across the Mexican border claiming " Amnesty," boy word does get out.Yet they deport the Mexicans from coming across but not the South Americans? their claim oh they seek Amnesty, sorry but if your own country can't protect you then it's not our business, your govt. is the blame. So far they have predicated this year 160,000 South American Illegals will have come across our borders. The Gov. of Arizona is furious because the Feds are dumping them into Arizona by the thousands , she complained to the feds and they said it will continue until we say so, we don't have an end deadline. I think the Fed. Govt. has gone too far ! Time to throw them out of office in Nov..... Cheers..... Joe... |
| | | Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:37 am | |
| - joefrank wrote:
- 6/7/2014
Thousands of South American Illegals are being dumped by the Federal Govt. in states Ca., Az, NY, etc. These young illegals came across the Mexican border claiming " Amnesty," boy word does get out.Yet they deport the Mexicans from coming across but not the South Americans? their claim oh they seek Amnesty, sorry but if your own country can't protect you then it's not our business, your govt. is the blame. So far they have predicated this year 160,000 South American Illegals will have come across our borders. The Gov. of Arizona is furious because the Feds are dumping them into Arizona by the thousands , she complained to the feds and they said it will continue until we say so, we don't have an end deadline. I think the Fed. Govt. has gone too far ! Time to throw them out of office in Nov.....
Cheers..... Joe... If I lived in South America, I would jump the fence too. When the first Europens came to the new world, they were starving the first year...fifty years later, the native Americans hung the stupid native American who said, "Why don't we feed these poor people." |
| | | Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:15 am | |
| Joe, Amnesty or Asylum is not limited to the US. Germany is getting a large share of Syrian Refugees. It is a humanatarian thing. Lebanon is swamped and cannot handle all the Refugees nor bear the cost. Sending money helps, but there is more to be considered. This past week boats loaded with Nigerians and other African countries were rescued off the coast of Italy. Thousands keep coming. What are they to do with them? The EU is absorbing them. When people are desperate and willing to risk their lives seeking a better way of life, how can you reject them? Failure to rescue the sinking vessels overloaded with refugees is condemning them to death. |
| | | joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:12 pm | |
| 6/7/2014 Sorry everyone should get on line, no jumping borders. This country cannot absorb those huge numbers, I think when they dumped a thousand South Americans into Arizona it was Pres. Obama's way to get back at Gov. Jan Brewer because she snubbed him, if that's true I see impeachment ahead plus several congressmen are drafting a new amendment to block him from closing Gitmo, and they said two years ago he signed an agreement , now he has plans to close it against Congress wishes, or as Susan Rice said it is our goal wether Congress likes it or not to close Gitmo. What is wrong with these Socialist Liberal Democrats ? Are they trying to go against our Constitution ? Cheers..Joe... |
| | | Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:18 pm | |
| In my view, Gitmo should be closed and Obama promosed to do that when he ran for President. Impeachment has been talked about ever since he became President. Why was Bush not impeached? We have convenient short memories. Where do you suggest they dump the South Americans? Perhaps they should send them all to Texas and then give Texas back to Mexico. Problem solved. Sarcasm is used here. There is no easy solution. |
| | | alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:31 am | |
| Now,now, Abe. Can't give Texas back to Mexico since they didn't get her from Mexico in the first place. Joe, are you having fun with us again? |
| | | Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:24 am | |
| From what I read, Texas belonged to Mexico up until the 1800's. Of course the real owners were the Native Americans. |
| | | Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| | | | Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:35 am | |
| Mexicans are Native Americans. They are not from Spain. Nor are they half, and half.
The Mexicans are the real TEXANS. ViVA LA PANCO...LOL. |
| | | alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:41 am | |
| Texas belonged to Mexico between 1821 and 1836. Before that it belonged to Spain. After that, is was an independent nation until agreeing to become a state, so the US might give it back to itself, I suppose, but not Mexico.
Seriously, though. These children are a problem, but they also have a problem, and they are children - displaced children. We need to be a part of the solution, it seems to me. |
| | | Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:57 am | |
| - alj wrote:
- Texas belonged to Mexico between 1821 and 1836. Before that it belonged to Spain. After that, is was an independent nation until agreeing to become a state, so the US might give it back to itself, I suppose, but not Mexico.
Seriously, though. These children are a problem, but they also have a problem, and they are children - displaced children. We need to be a part of the solution, it seems to me.
Mexico takes care of its own. All Mexicans should be allowed to come, and stay in the States. If they left, who would do all the work? |
| | | alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:56 am | |
| One more thing: The children in Arizona and California, etc are overflow from the original refugees who were sent into Texas until Texas reached a saturation point. |
| | | Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:09 am | |
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| | | alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:11 am | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
- Texas saturated?
More children were being brought into the state than resources could handle. The later ones were sent to AZ and CA: - Quote :
- www.latimes.com
Children crossing border alone create 'urgent humanitarian situation'
NationNation Now Border crossing Immigrant children who come into the U.S. alone are housed in shelters like this one in Harlingen, Texas which is licensed to hold as many as 290. The Obama administration announced the opening of two more facilities in Texas and California. (Johnny Hanson / Associated Press) MigrationNational GovernmentGovernmentCentral AmericaImmigrationFEMAWhite House Obama administration creates a team to tackle surge in children crossing U.S.-Mexico border without parents Number of children crossing U.S.-Mexico border without parents has tripled; it could soon reach 60,000 a year A recent surge in the number of children who are detained while illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without their parents is an “urgent humanitarian situation” that has prompted the opening of special facilities to house them in San Antonio and at the naval base in Port Hueneme, the Obama administration said Monday.
Although unaccompanied children have been crossing the Southwest border for years, a surge in the last year has overloaded Border Patrol stations and detention facilities along the border, particularly in south Texas. Most of the children are from Central America, including Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras.
About 120 unaccompanied children are arriving each day, officials said. The number has tripled over the last five years and could soon reach 60,000 a year. That number could grow to 130,000 a year in 2015, according to Obama administration officials.
More girls and children under age 13 are making the treacherous trek than in previous years, said Cecilia Muñoz, White House director of domestic policy.
“Both the scale and the humanitarian nature of this situation is what is causing us to ramp up and further unify our efforts,” Muñoz said.
President Obama directed the heads of the Department of Homeland Security and Federal Emergency Management Agency to join in an interagency Unified Coordination Group to address the situation.
Increased violence in Central America, the desire to reunify with parents and false rumors circulating in their homelands that unaccompanied children can stay indefinitely in the United States are fueling the surge, administration officials said.
The shelter at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, which opened a few weeks ago, is housing nearly 1,200 children and is approaching capacity. The one at the Ventura County naval base is slated to open as early as Friday and will be able to house as many as 600 children.
The costs of caring for and resettling the Central American children could reach $2.28 billion next year, according to administration officials.
Under current immigration law, unaccompanied children from Central America present special circumstances because of their age. Adults can be returned to their home county quickly by immigration officials. However, children essentially become wards of the government and are cared for by the Department of Health and Human Services. Officials attempt to place them with a sponsor or family member in the United States.
In the meantime the children are given medical and mental health services, education and other aid. Children typically stay about 30 to 45 days in the facility before they are placed with a family member or sponsor.
However, the child is still placed in removal proceedings and has to appear before an immigration judge to make the case to stay. The child is not entitled to representation. ----------- But Lisa Frydman, associate director of the Center for Gender and Refugee Studies at Hastings College of Law in San Francisco, said the children say they are fleeing violence in their homes in Central America.
“I’m very glad to hear that the U.S. government is using the words ‘humanitarian crisis,’ because this at least recognizes what the situation is,” Frydman said.
Copyright © 2014, Los Angeles Times 8:20 p.m.: |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:04 pm | |
| We all know why Texas can't handle them. |
| | | alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:10 pm | |
| - dkchristi wrote:
- We all know why Texas can't handle them.
We do? |
| | | Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:28 pm | |
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| | | joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:47 pm | |
| 6/8/2014 A friend of mine asked me if I wanted to move into a house he rents in San Antonio, I said I really have to think about this one, first the weather is HOT...Then again I know someone else who lives in San Antonio AJ , gee I may bunk into her at Trader Joes, hay you never know... As for our country being the great adoption agency to the world don't you think these countries should take care of their own or are they so dam corrupt. Oh yes by the way several years ago I heard a Hispanic School teacher speak, man you talk about so far left Liberal Democrat. He stated all Hispanics should cause a civil war and take back Texas, California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, I think this teacher's brain is so warped, this nut job was from L.A. Cheers.. Joe.. |
| | | joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:29 pm | |
| 6/16/2014 Just saw on the news here in the good old Southwest that the border guards are overwhelmed and don't know what to do? It's become such an invasion so far from Oct.2013-May2014 164,000 As one woman from Hounduras told a reporter( She had several kids with her,) the word has reached all of South America after Pres. Obama declared those children born here can stay until further notice. She said those words were like a shot heard all around South America. We need the army on the border and now Mexico has the nerve to ask this country to help them close their borders to South America, excuse me, Mexico has a huge army, let them protect their own dam borders, as for us we need 100,00 or more to protect our borders from New Mexico to Calif. And if Mexico opens their mouth up about it tell them to go screw off ! Army we need you now, 1/2 Million or more to protect our great border.. Cheers..Joe.. |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:06 pm | |
| I'm not sure how born in the U.S. can stay impacts the children coming from South America. Clue me in please. |
| | | joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:17 pm | |
| 6/16/2014 All I know is from watching the interview here on the news, evidently they hear what is said in this country and it's like a shot heard around South America...As one border guard told the reporter we're exhausted, we can't deal with this and Washington is no help at all..All I know is the politicians don't give a dam about the American people and now it came out today they want to send 245 troops to Iraq ! Are they crazy ? Do they know the American public is fed up with these wars? Do they know this is a religious war? We're going to be in the middle of a mess that's going to end very deadly........... Oh yes since the Gov. of Texas ( Mr. Big SMiles, can't think of his name?) is so generous and Texas is very wealthy let them take in all 164,000 illegal South Americans.... Cheers... Joe... |
| | | joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:58 am | |
| 7/14/2014 Just read about a news reporter and Congressman went to the border of Texas which only has three border patrol agents because the others are busy processing, they came upon a group of illegal South Americans and one of them was a young boy and the Congressman asked the boy why did you come here, his answer: " Because we were told if we came here we can stay. And you'll be busy because there's thousands more behind us." Evidently some moron is putting out the word come to America you can stay there once inside. It's a horrible situation no one is doing anything about the borders aren't secure because they have the agents so dam busy processing people, now it's over 75,000 people since the last few months.... Cheers..Joe.. |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: South American Illegals Being Dumped In CA,AZ, NY By Feds Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:34 am | |
| Yes, the corrupt morons making a fortune selling transportation to the U.S. (if you can call it that) and rounding up the people.
It was the same when the first migrants came from Mexico. It was the U.S. farmers that put posters everywhere and the coyotes who rounded up the people and trucked them to the border.
Whatever they tell the people, they repeat. Do we read the foreign newspapers? No. We believe what we are told about foreign countries and their policies. |
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