Jail sentence for being raped

A Norwegian girl working in Dubai as an Engineer reported to the police that she had been raped.  She was sentenced to five years in prison for having sex outside of marriage.

7/22/2013

                       She was just pardoned , that's what happens when a woman goes to one
                       of these Arab countries......

                                                                    Cheers..Joe..

Why do we provide both economic and military aid to numerous regimes that institutionalize the subjugation of women and give them less protection than that we afford wild animals and pets? Why? WHY!

Good question.

I guess it's because the consequences of not providing support to the regimes are greater than the consequences to a few females from the lack of human rights.

 As known from my previous posts, I pointed out that the legislators in the U.S. who bring religious doctrine into legislation regarding a woman's right to govern her body are forcing religious doctrine on females as the last bastion of male domination.

 Rape without consequences to the perpetrator is one example of male domination - and the U.S.  is still punishing rape victims in court proceedings.  Look what happened to women in our own military.  Or the legislators who say raped women are less likely to get pregnant or the other stupid comments to justify their voting for legislation to gain back some of their male domination. Let us who live in glass houses be careful of our stone throwing and look at ourselves at the same time.

 The countries where religion governs laws still have total domination over women.  The men in this country in some religions have partial domination but are seeking to regain what they have lost.  After all, women here except in a few religious sects may choose their clothing, choose their spouses, choose to vote, choose to have an education and career and in many states have choices over their own health decisions for their own bodies.  All of these rights were once forbidden women here under the guise of religious practices made legal.

 Remember, the Christian Bible is written by men for men to govern with a male God during a time when females were as near the dust of the earth as they still are in some countries.  Religions in the U.S. still try to implement the tenants of a book written at a different time in history. 

 Fortunately, Jesus Christ was a spiritually evolved person who seemed to express respect and include women in his philosophy without demeaning them or making them subservient to men.

 We look at countries still living very much in the same religious mentality as the time the Christian Bible was written with women either demeaned or sex objects and damn them for violating women's rights.  Every day legislators in this country are working toward demeaning women and we are a modern country.

With respect, D.K., there is no moral equivalence between the treatment of women in most of the middle east and in the U.S. None.

No state prevents a woman from making a choice to end the life in her womb on demand within the first trimester or (to the best of my knowledge) the second. If criminalizing partial birth abortion (which I supported and support) in the ninth month of pregnancy other than when the mother's life is in danger is the same as making her wear a burka, preventing her from getting an education, holding her criminally liable for escaping from home is she is being beaten or raped by her husband (or any other family member), and making it nearly impossible for any man to be found guilty or rape absent a confession or multiple male witnesses to the act, then we've crossed over into the Twilight Zone. The argument is as unfounded as equating Jessie Jackson to Adolph Hitler because they both "had anti-semetic tendencies" (The latter exterminated some 7.5 million innocent people because they were jews, whereas the former once publicly referred to NYC according to a 1984 Washington post (and many other papers) article  that claimed Rev. Jackson repeatedly referred to Jews as hymies and NYC as Hymietown--something for which Rev. Jackson subsequently publicly apologized. The anti-semitic remark can be attacked and Jessie Jackson chastised for, among other things, hypocrisy, but saying he is like Hitler would be preposterous. There is no moral equivalency there, any more than there is to the treatment of women under U.S. law and the law of most middle eastern countries.

Theocracies may indeed be hostile to women, generally speaking, but so is China's one-child policy and forced abortions that have resulted in the death of countless little girls--brought to you by a socialist government proud of its "progressive" roots and undaunted atheism.

There is no doubt about the unfair treatment of women since the beginning of time, and the negative portrayal of women in the Judeo-Christian-Islam traditions from Eve on. Yes women in the U.S. are victimized in court by aggressive defense lawyers who try to attack their credibility and attempt to paint the victim as promiscuous as a means of raising reasonable doubt as to the defendant's guilt by showing that consent may have been given to sex, but that is a function of our legal system that by design concerns itself primarily with the rights of the accused rather than (and at the expense of) the rights of the victim (or the safety of society, for that matter).

There are stupid legislators here--in my view, there is no shortage of these in BOTH parties of the liberal and conservative varieties. But we are not living in a glass house as regards the rights of women. We provide, as I've said above, more protection against cruelty to wild animals and pets than some countries to which we provide billions of dollars every year in aid do to women and girls--and in some cases to any of their citizens. I still want to know why.

I am glad I live in America.  I have big feet and the Chinese would not have appreciated me at all.

You are also a very bright, capable, strong woman, as are each and every one of our good female friends here. Nothing scares the living hell out of bigots, misogynists and self-righteous morons than competence and strength that eclipses their little . . . egoes . . . and delusions of adequacy.

My friend in S. Korea had size 13 feet.  We went to have ice skates custom made and the store owner ran into the street and called in all his acquaintances to stare at her blond beehive ('70's) and size 13 feet.

I am glad I live in a country where I may enjoy its benefits without being blinded to its faults, where I can recognize the pain of many people still in spite of the success of many others, where I can write about my concerns without too much fear (I became fearful during the Bush years and it still remains as privacy is more and more eliminated) and where I can travel freely for over 3000 miles one way.  The U.S. is a large and grand country with much to offer many.

We are not yet so perfect to sit in judgment of another country ruled by religion so long as we allow religion to influence our laws. Money and military support are not provided to other countries for humanitarian reasons - charitable organizations are the humanitarians - money and military support are provided to keep the balance of power and wealth in the U.S. favor.  I've answered that question twice now.  Abused women in comparison to power and wealth pales in the analysis since power and wealth are the purview of men the world over (with a few exceptions, but not enough to shift the balance).

I agree with you about our shortcomings and am by no means blinded to my country's faults or believe her to be a paragon of justice. I am equally aware of my own shortcomings. We are far from perfect; I have never subscribed to the notion of "America love it or leave it" as many on the right wing do. Dissent is a patriotic act when done out of a genuine conviction that one's country is wrong.  I reject relativistic ethics while embracing compromise on the irreconcilable points where systems of ethics invariably crash (such as abortion, the death penalty, the absolute right of sovereign nations to do as they please within their borders, etc.) as a requirement of any democracy. Racism was not eradicated in the U.S. in the 1980s; did that prevent us from having the moral authority to oppose apartheid in south Africa? We were not free of anti-semitism (or blatant racism) in the early 1940's. Did that mean we had no right to oppose Nazi Germany's racist policies or final solution? And yes, inequities in our treatment of women still exist today in the U.S., but nothing to compare with the parts of the world to which we are referring here. And I believe we have not only the moral authority but also the responsibility to put pressure on--and withhold military and economic aid from--countries that treat women like little more than property, just as we did in opposing Nazis in Germany and the racist South African regime.

I repeat - the treatment of women is low priority for those in control of the money and power - and their need is to have the U.S. in the best political position to have money and power.

Fortunately, for me  I have been surrounded by respectful men.
I wish every woman could have had a dad like mine. 
When you grow up  highly esteemed, you expect to be treated well always.

Interesting comments.  We still have a problem speaking out when the party/country is considered a friend of the USA.   Turning a blind eye continues to plague us.  Some refuse to acknowledge the fact that we can be wrong and often do wrong.  Confessing to a wrong-doing is not a weakness as some believe, but a strength.  We all make mistakes.  Sometimes those so-called mistakes are not mistakes but deliberate acts of agression and repression.  Speaking out takes courage and I applaud those who dare take the risk of ridicule.  Those who truly care, speak out about wrong-doing.  It is not an easy thing to do.  Example is to criticize Israel for the cruelty and atrocities inflicted on the Palestinians.