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PostSubject: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyWed Jun 29, 2011 4:53 pm

I am so very dismayed by the political advertisement that are on prime time negating our president's efforts, insinuating that he is responsible for all of The Bush Generations dealing, the Banks, the Federal Reserve, The Republican Party for the last sixty years and it is all spouted by some old bat that no one sees and is supposed to be one of them, the rich and coomfortably retired who have everything they ever wanted are not going to live more than another 15 years on this planet.

Are the American people that stupid? Yes, they are. I am sorry to say it.

No one is accountable. Yell fire in a building and you are prosecuted. Lie on national TV, incite the ignorant to vote for trash, nothing can be done.

I know people who live in a tent with a one year old baby. It is my quest to get the information to them how to apply for assistance for housing, food and every thing they can qualify for government wise. They do not have a computer, no cell phone, no food stamp stuff, no job, nothing but each other. They have not asked. I am angry at our blithering governor, ....sssscccccooooottt. What trash he is.

I better go to bed while I can still breathe. Damn!

I get mad and do not know what to do.

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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyWed Jun 29, 2011 5:01 pm

6/30/2011

Betty..

We're just a flossom in the sea, politicians will do
what they want no matter what the American public
thinks ! They forget who puts them there and have the
dam nerve to say : " We know better than the American
people ." I don't think so ! I think it's going to be 1776
all over again or 1799 The French Revolution, they refuse
to listen to " We The People, For The People and By The
People !"


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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyWed Jun 29, 2011 5:59 pm

Betty,

You are so right.

People don't know the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyWed Jun 29, 2011 7:23 pm

Betty, our governor is one of 12 sponsored by KOCH industries - an outfit that funds $billions to get Republican governors elected who will destroy anything "government" and privatize everything so the wealthy corporate types can continue to fatten their wallets without government intervention and regulation. His responsibility to his funders is to destroy and to actively work at disenfranchising anyone who might vote against the party in the future.

I can't be upset about it anymore. I am going to actively work against those who fight for the rights of the super rich to get richer and the middle and underclasses to continue going downhill. That's the best I can do. If the American public continues to swallow the claptrap on those ads, our imagined American dream for all the people is doomed. We might as well have a monarchy.

Love your heart....
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyWed Jun 29, 2011 9:10 pm

6/30/2011


I've decided I may live in Europe.....
Maybe Germany where Abe lives....
Always wanted to live in a small town.


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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 2:21 am

Politicians are in it for the money period.
Ive seen Mr Smith goes to Washington I know what goes on! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 3:25 am

Europe has its own kettle of fish - but it may be a better place to grow old anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 6:31 am

It seems to me that more and more people are becoming aware of what goes on behind the political scene, though. The more that comes out into the open, the less these forces will be able to accomplish.

Whatever we can do do increase that awareness, the less effect the hidden agenda in politics will have. We need to keep doing what we are doing - discussing it in a public forum.

Every little candle....

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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 6:51 am

6/30/2011


Here's our new political forum, Let your hair down and
discuss anything .......

Cheers..Joe


http://2012elections.forumotion.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 1:37 pm

The Republicans are fiddling while Rome burns--not at all funny.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 4:18 pm

However, if the economy tanks because they are fiddling, President Obama will be blamed at election time. Does this provide a clue regarding the ads and the behavior? The ads I have seen so far are horrid and the usual half-truths. Both sides will use $billions to produce these ads and all they do is appeal to emotions, fears, hates and ignorance. That's what the political parties think about the U.S.Citizens. If they believed the voters possessed intelligence they would need to govern instead of protecting their jobs.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 5:12 pm

6/30/2011

DK:

The politicians will never listen to the American
public, they don't care , all they think about is
getting re-elected ! I think it's a crime against
the citizens of this country when they spend
hundreds of millions of dollars on campaigns, it
should be like England you have so much money
to run and do it in six months.....

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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 5:42 pm

It is such a pleasure to agree with every word in your above post, Joe. I think if the English system is as you describe, we should adopt it. How can they spend those $billions on half truths when food pantries in this country can't keep up with the needs of the long-term unemployed. Food. We have starving people in this country.

Just think. A family of four, two adults and two children. Both adults lose their jobs and run out of unemployment. They have no source of income. Unemployment is so small they would have used any saved resources. Their home is half the value, likely upside down on the mortgage. They become homeless with no money to rent and no money to buy food and two children. Their last resort is a homeless shelter, a motel room, a food pantry. All of these resources are maxed; food pantries are turning away the hungry.

And then we have politicians spending $billions on Madison Avenue ads that tell half truths and scare the impoverished, those who are hurting, those who are hungry, into an emotional response.

They should all agree NOT to buy expensive ads but to take themselves to the public in free forums and free television time provided by the networks. Hah, hah, hah - I'm rolling on the floor at my stupidity for posing such an ethical thought. They should still raise the money for their campaigns - and then turn it all over to the food pantries, the soup kitchens and the homeless shelters.

There's plenty of money in this country. The wealthiest paid only 16% income tax while the rest of us paid up to 35%. Corporations are holding $trillions in cash equity. Instead of hiring workers, they are saving it to support their own candidates.

The president of my local community, now state college, is paid $800,000 a year. This in the little town of Fort Myers. Imagine the executive salaries across the nation.

Anyway, Joe, it's great to share the same thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 6:46 pm

7/1/2011

I just hope we don't become another " Greece !"

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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 7:16 pm

I heard that the austerity measures passed and they will get a bailout. The people of the country resent the austerity measures because they paid their taxes already and believe the government mismanaged their trust.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 7:42 pm

7/1/2011

Yes and they have been taxed a third time, the Vat Tax
went up tp 23 % and the restaurant Vat tax went from
13% to 23 % . I wouldn't be surprised our Govt. comes
up with the brilliant idea of a VAT Tax , from what I've
read they have been having secret meetings for months
on how to pass it on.....God Help Us !

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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyThu Jun 30, 2011 7:49 pm

It is the rich who make the companies that give work to the poor. As to those who govern; "Man can not guide his own foot steps," if he could, it would have worked long before now.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 6:02 am

I deleted my post because it was a bit intense.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 9:04 am

AW PHOOEY!

SEND IT TO ALL POLITICIANS!

Better yet--write it up and we that agree can sign it and send it to those who need it.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 9:08 am

7/1/2011


DK....


Keep on trucking, more, more, more.
How's about the VAT Tax ? I don't think we
need it, otherwise we'll be paying a VAT Tax
plus State Sales Tax..


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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 9:13 am

Dear Diane,
Please put your post back. I agree with Alice. You said what needs to be said.

You know how all those things are forwarded to people. Put it back. We who agree will sign our names and I will forward it to every one in my address book.

Be sure to put all of your credits with your signature.

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It's easy for me to rant. What is more important is to have a plan that will make a positive difference, a plan that is free of bias but looks instead at the fact that a country is only as strong as its weakest link. Until we examine all the pieces and put them back together, progress will be political instead of productive.

First: Television has wreaked havoc on the economy. Advertising has trained us to believe what we see and hear in our subconscious whether we agree or not. The destruction of our food from packaging, processing, salt, sugar and additives has created wealth for corporations but destroyed the health of our nation. The nation's health affects the cost of medical care. Therefore, the skyrocketing costs of medical care have several causes: Madison Avenue advertising on television; insurance and pharmaceutical companies controlling hospitals, physicians and the delivery of medical care; the expectation that medical care is free. All medical care should require a sliding scale co-pay and should be universal, encompassing all persons from farmers to the President. Alternatives to pharmaceuticals should be an integral part of healthcare: life style change prescriptions for exercise, proper diet and the mind/body connection.

Taxes. There should be no tax exemptions. Period. No non-profits. No tax-exempt. No tax "planning" . It's like my friends who tithed to their church. They provided their church 10% of all their "gifts" of presents, income, interest -this is a complicated country. Specific functions belong to government to benefit all the citizens - these need to be paid by all the citizens. No subsidies to industry. No tax breaks. Corporations operating in this country pay taxes on all income from all sources, domestic and foreign.

Social Security and Medicare. Medicare will be unnecessary when all citizens are covered under universal health and wellness care. Since children no longer care for aging adults, specific taxes for social security need to continue without a limit on the income that is taxed. Additionally, employees from their first job should be encouraged to also have a savings account that is deducted from their income for their own investment strategies. The account belongs to the employee. Businesses may choose to contribute to that account as a benefit.

Defense. Universal military/community service should be required of all high school graduates for a minimum of one to two years between high school graduation and college. Any person dropping out of high school before graduation will be required to serve their community service immediately. Any declared war requires a war tax immediately so all citizens feel the pain of war immediately in the service of their children and the cost in their pocket - thus they will pay attention to the causes of war and contribute to the discussion.

Welfare/Unemployment - all recipients of welfare and unemployment are required to do community service if no jobs are available and no appropriate training leading to a job is available.

Incarceration - only dangerous criminals will be incarcerated. The rest will be in community service and required to make restitution for any damages. They will be supervised by some type of electronic method. The cost of prisons will instead go for true rehabilitation programs, education and medical care.

Education: Year round schools. Tenure earned by total school performance. Team teaching methodology. Several levels of teachers with intense individual instruction where needed by the tutor level. Parent participation in schools required. Workplaces required to release parents for mandatory participation in their children's schools. Those who do not have children will have the same "professional release" benefit days. Education is paid by a combination of parent funding (or in-kind services at the school), local taxes, state taxes and federal funding that is not grant-based but rather education needs based.

Size of government: every time a need is met by government, an appropriate adjustment to taxes is made. When that need no longer exists, the program is DROPPED and taxes reduced accordingly. Continuous quality improvement needs to evaluate the size of government agencies for efficiencies on a fixed schedule aimed at cost/benefit/tax balance.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 10:01 am

In theory all of that is good stuff. It would fall apart in reality. Like trying to "make" welfare recipients do community service or high school dropouts serve in the military. You can't force the unemployable and trenchantly lazy to work and be productive. There will never be 100% employment because there will never be a population 100% ready, able and WILLING to work.

Welfare recipients (who are mostly women) will complain about childcare -who will watch my kids while I'm forced to work? And what work will these unskilled people do? Managing them will cost more than just giving them welfare.

About the military. They are selective who they take. You can't flood the military with unemployable, hostile people and expect to keep a cohesive force.
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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 10:47 am

If the tax exempt status of churches went away,
we would have significant revenue increases.


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PostSubject: Re: Truth In Advertising   Truth In Advertising EmptyFri Jul 01, 2011 11:12 am

DK

Forward it to Jphn Boehner--he needs it!
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