DO WE NEED STRICTER SCREENING TO PREVENT TERRORISM?

12/29/2009
Hi.....

Do we need stricter screening when flying to
prevent terrorism ? AFter this past week's
incident, the EU refuses to use the full body
screening where they can see everything and
if your hiding a bomb etc. it can be seen at once,
I say yes use it , it would save lives..What is your
opinion ? We don't need another 9/11 again.. The
EU in Europe claims it's an invasion of privacy..

Cheers....Joe...

12/29/2009

ALice..

You are right...We need to be stricter, these
nut jobs won't be satisfied until they cause another 9/11
then what are we going to do ?


Cheers..Joe

Have more wars--what else?

Wars solve everything. They decrease the population,

If someone kills us, kill more of them.

The fundamental problem is this, no matter how good the security they have, even if they catch 999 out of 1000 attempts, it's the one you don't see that gets you.

NYT BEST SELLING AUTHOR wrote:

Have more wars--what else?

Wars solve everything. They decrease the population,

If someone kills us, kill more of them.

1: We can't afford more wars
2: Chosing war may cause allies to turn against us
3: We need to get away from the old testament "Eye for eye" logic
4: Choosing not to have kids reduces population without the use of violence
5: War just proves who can beat the other side into submission first (it doesn't actually resolve the core problem; why do you think there have been wars since the dawn of civilization)

We all fly naked--or as we say in the south, nekked--and carry clear bags.

Problem solved.

Only...ewww!!

They don't call you madhatter for nothing. Or maybe we could just sign an affidavit saying we're not a bad person. If they've got it in writing that should be good enough. Right.

Charlie

Remember Abe's Afganistan thread on Current Events?

http://www.publishedauthors.org/current-events-f27/afghanistan-t2067.htm

We got into a discussion of the film, Charlie Wilson's War. I believe it was Carol who pointed out the ending of that film. Charlie had managed to raise millions from Congress to fight a covert war against Russia, which led to the Afgan's victory over the Soviets, but when he tried to get a few dollars to build schools in Afghanistan, no one was willing. Maybe if we had helped the country build schools then, we wouldn't have to be so worried about the Taliban or Al Alqaeda now.

Ann

Joe you asked: DO WE NEED STRICTER SCREENING TO PREVENT TERRORISM ?

What we need is stricter screening on the way children are brought up by their parents into this world.

A black child of 4 or 5 does not have anything against his white or blue or green coloured friends at school... some of whom may be handicapped or blind or suffer some mental condition, or speak other languages, or eat dislikable kinds of food, etc..

Until... the day when this black kid invites his friend into his parent's house. His parents immediately start to dislike their child associating with someone of that type.

From that day forth, the black kid learns something new and starts to realise there is something odd about people who are different to him in colour, race, religion or other political disposition. And that's when the nastiness sets in, his mind is marked by his parental influence, and the divisioning begins.

By the time this black kid hits his teen years, his mind is already polluted to realise that humans are divided in this world and not everybody will be or should be his friend.

That then leads onto more brainwashing by what he reads in the media and watches on television and film, and that then persuades him to go into terrorism and counter attacks.

Did I say right or wrong? It's a funnnnyyyy world!

12/29/2009

Ahad....

You hit the nail on the head ! In the 1950's when I
was 7 1/2 yrs old, I lost my father. My mother had five
small children , ages two months to seven in the half. A
year or so later my mother met a gentleman who was
black, they got married and in those days whites didn't
marry a black person. As a kid I didn't know the difference.
I remember him one day asking me would I like to go to
the store , I said yes. He asked me a nine year old a
question: " May I marry your mother ?" I looked at him
and said: " Okay with me, as long as we go to the store."
He was kind enough to ask me because I was the oldest.
I never called him step-father, always dad. When ever we
were on the streets we would get funny looks and I didn't know
why till much later, I didn't know what color meant. I wrote a
book ( My first) on this titled: " Is Your Father Black ?," Isbn#
1-4137-5556-9 , If you ever want to read this I'll send you a
PDF file, by the way this was in Brooklyn, New York 1950's. I
noticed as an adult children are innocent to color until some
jackass grown up points it out, that's when the trouble starts.


Cheers..Joe...

A Ahad wrote:

What we need is stricter screening on the way children are brought up by their parents into this world.

Most of the world is tribal and engages in tribal conflicts. I bet Bush never thought that after he took out Sadaam he'd be dealing with endless wars between Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds. Apparently parents are very happy to bring up their kids this way. I don't think it will change.

What is needed is racial profiling and stricter screening of the types predisposed to cause this mayhem. Which won't happen, though, because that's "unfair" and "impolite."

We don't need tighter security. We need to address the cause, and until that is resolved, no security will screen out those seeking revenge.

12/29/2009

I've always believed we're all the same human beings,
we eat, we laugh, we cry, we go to the bathroom, we all
get ill, we all die, we all have the same soul. Yet man has
this hatred towrds each other, maybe I'm being innocent
I always felt everyone should be treated the same, no
matter if your black, white, green, yellow, etc. But there
are times when a certain group of people hate with a
passion, then we have to be wise to wake up before they
try to destroy us. It always gets me mad when people use
religion for their own agenda, I don't believe God is that
way......

Cheers...Joe

Abe F. March wrote:

We don't need tighter security. We need to address the cause, and until that is resolved, no security will screen out those seeking revenge.

Excellent post, Abe. It puts the situation out quite succinctly.

Ann

So screening is a waste of time and no point doing it?

Eliminate no-fly lists, metal detectors, etc.?

12/29/2009


They should do a complete body scan, otherwise
we are going to be sorry one day and have another
9/11 on our hands, the ones to blame are the
politicians in Washington, they voted last year against
it......These nut jobs won't give in till they kill more
people wether it's Americans or Europeans...


Cheers...Joe

The ones to blame are the perpetrators of the act.

As much as we would like to believe that our government can protect us from these perpetrators, they simply cannot. The government will always be one step behind. We have now become accustomed to removing our shoes before we go through the detectors. Suppose we had been asked to do that before there was a reason. How many travelers, even now, are willing to go through a machine that strips us naked? How many false alarms must the inspectors wade through to determine who is a real threat and who is not?

The condominium where we stayed on family vacations when my children were small had a posted rule: Do not feed sea gulls from your balcony. That would not have been a rule if somebody on the lower floors had not experienced a high volume of gull poop.

I remember a parent's article on child care that said we, as parents, should never tell our children not to put beans up their noses. It would give them an idea they probably would not have thought of on their own.

We would like to believe that all of these methods for terrorist acts can be anticipated. They cannot. We must accept the risk. Once we do that, we just might start looking at the causes, as Abe suggested.

Ann

Until the causes are resolved, what should be done?

And your post assumes that the causes can even BE resolved.

Quote :

And your post assumes that the causes can even BE resolved.

LC, I only wish. We can attempt to resolve the causes, but what we must accept is that there are no pat answers. No guarantees. We take life as it comes, and live it day to day. And we live with the risks, because there is no way around them. We just have to take life at each moment, and live what is in front of us, knowing that all we can do is give it our best and hope.

Ann

If efforts are not made to resolve the cause, acts of terror will continue. If that is to be, then perhaps Archie Bunker of "All In The Family" series had the right idea. He said, "If every passenger were issued a 'piece' when they got on the plane, there would be no highjackings.

What is a suitable punishment for a person who is willing to commit suicide by killing others?

Ignoring the cause of terrorism may be analogous to ignoring the cause of global warming.

Abe F. March wrote:

If efforts are not made to resolve the cause, acts of terror will continue.

No arguments, Abe, but until then, what to do besides screen?

The next time I go to Europe, I'll take a ship. The airlines are close to giving a finger wave.

Domenic