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Subject: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:34 pm
6/29/2013
Egypt is in turmoil , hundreds of thousands demonstrating , they want to get rid of Morisai and the brotherhood, I think it'll turn into a full blown revolution like Syria, the people are desperate no money, no jobs, no gas ! It's horrible, the worst is no tourisim, they loose hundreds of millions of dollars, I've read this country is giving them 1.2 Billion dollars , Why ? The brotherhood is a terrorist group, the people yearn for their freedom, what is your opinion ?
Cheers...........Joe.......
Abe F. March Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:30 am
Joe, they already had a revolution and got rid of pro-western Mubarak. We applauded those revolting and he was replaced by an extremest religious regime. They got what they thought they wanted. Now they want to get rid of this regime. I think it best not to get involved. People usually get what they deserve. What we may think is best for them will not happen. Our interference will be resented and they will do the opposite. A similar thing is still happening in Syria. Western interference seems to fuel the flames. There is no easy solution. Whenever religion is involved one has only to look at history. Unfortunately people continue to repeat the mistakes of the past and what we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:32 am
6/29/2013
I read on CNN that two guys broke into the Cairo Museum and detsroyed two mummies and broke artifacts, are they crazy ? These are national treasures, could never be replace...
Cheers...Joe...
Abe F. March Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:35 pm
Looting seems to be part of revoltl. Remember what they did it Iraq? Artifacts looted and/or destroyed. During war, bombing includes historical sites. When these events occur, there is little thought given to what is being destroyed and often it is the things that draw tourists.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:50 am
6/30/2013
Today the revolution has started in Egypt, they have a petition with 20 million signatures to get rid of Morisai , there are millions of people protesting across Egypt.........I just hope we don't and I mean don't get invovled , as they say you get who you vote for....
Cheers...Joe...
alj Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:45 am
What happened to Hope, Joe?
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:30 am
6/30/2013
I don't know why Americans don't see through their rose colored glasses that the Middle East is is a lost cause, Iran is licking it's chops with the hope that all of the Middle East becomes an Islamic States.. The Saudis are shaking in their boots because their surrounded by revolution, we have to keep out of these uprisings. The Egyptians are fed up , Morisai won't give in and we all know the brotherhood is a terrorist group, why the hell are we giving Egypt 1.7 billion dollars are we nuts !!! This country doesn't have money to give away now I just read Pres. Obama is giving Africa 7 billion dollars, he's nuts....
Cheers...Joe..
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:47 am
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:26 am
You open a thread called "hope," with images that represent hope. Then you open threads like this one that deny hope.
I like you, Joe, and I think you a good guy, but I have a hard time with the extreme negativity you are expressing in threads like this one.
When all hope is gone You know sad songs say so much When all the little bit of hope is gone Sad songs say so much
When all the little bit of hope is gone Sad songs say so much When all hope is gone Sad songs say...
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:45 pm
6/30/2013
Ann..
You may see it as negative, I read it as news of the world, human beings will never get along when it comes to religion, to me religion is a downfall of people, it's used to manipulate and put sheer terror into the hearts of people, many of the egyptian people want to live in peace have jobs, money, etc. but there are certain groups who don't want it that way, I believe we should keep ourselves out of the Middle East and not get envolved that's was making us the new enemy....
Cheers..Joe...
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:19 am
7/2/2013
Just read on the news the army is about to take over, Morasi won't give up and six ministers resigned, the people are screaming for revoltuion....
Cheers...Joe...
Abe F. March Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:18 pm
Joe, and to think that these people were elected by the democratic process. We embrace democracy when the person elected suits us,but when it doesn't we are ready to embrace revolt. Doesn't make much sense. Same thing happened in Palestine. We don't want to recognize a regime that was democratically elected when those elected are not our choice. So much for democracy.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:30 pm
7/2/2013
Abe..
Just got through reading several major articles on Egypt on CNN, very educational , the people are starving, no money left in the country, running out of fuel, no jobs , I can't blame them, they finally realized what Morasi was trying to pull on them turn Egypt into an Islamic state like Iran and they don't want that, the army wants to call for new elections and make a new parliament. I've read crime there has gotten so bad people are afraid to go out and send their children to school. They've lost hundreds of millions of dollars in tourisim .........Morasi's hours are counted....
Cheers..Joe..
Abe F. March Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:40 pm
Jumping to conclusions is a bit premature.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:27 am
7/3/2013
It's either get rid of Morasi or a horrible revolution. The people are fed up...
Cheers..Joe..
dkchristi Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:52 am
I remember traveling in Egypt, feeling safe and in awe of the contrasts between modern and ancient ways of life.
Abe F. March Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:06 am
The clock is ticking and Morasi's hours are numbered. Although he was democratically elected, he changed the constitution that gave him unlimited powers. That was the first mistake and a huge one. The constitution is made by a number of people and should not be changed by one person. Then he employed his family and friends giving them big salaries and positions. He gave power to the Muslim Brotherhood that instituted change to convert the country to a religious state. Power once again has proven to corrupt. The people put him in power and will take him out. He will get what he deserves.
Egypt does not have oil and yet the price of oil has gone up. I think the speculators use a crisis like this to line their pockets. As soon as the crisis is over they will sell, take their profits and then buy back stock once it has fallen.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:17 pm
7/3/2013
FREE , FREE , FREE AT LAST ! THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE ARE FREE ! MORSAI OUSTED ! THANK GOD THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE SAW WHAT HE WAS UP TO ! BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES.....GOD BLESS EGYPT !
Cheers..Joe....
alj Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:38 pm
It's a military coup.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:37 pm
7/3/2013
He was warned , now they'll hold new elections and have someone who loves Egypt not try to destroy it like Morasi.....
Cheers......Joe...
dkchristi Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:11 pm
Elections in countries ill-prepared for democracy do not always yield a candidate "for all the people."
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:45 pm
7/3/2013
We shall see, at least the Egyptian people saw through his little charade.....God Bless The Egyptian people...I think the politicians in this country should look to Egypt and ask themselves " Can this happen here ?, you bet your ass, so they should get their act together before the American people get very angry and there's nothing like 300 million angry people !
Cheers...Joe...
alj Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:27 pm
Maybe we should all just take an anger management course.
Might be easier all around.
joefrank Five Star Member
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Subject: Re: Will Egypt become the next Middle East disaster ? Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:29 pm
7/4/2013
I guess Ann doesn't like the word " Revolution ?"
Cheers....Joe......
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