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mpride1122 One Star Member
Number of posts : 31 Registration date : 2011-03-25 Location : NY
| Subject: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:46 am | |
| There are enough issues and differences in policy in America to debate the U.S. President in the upcoming campaign for the Presidency in 2012 without abandoning sensibility by questioning his origin of birth or preference of religion. These two topics distract from the real issues the majority of thoughtful Americans care to understand. If GOP politicians persist in discussing these fringe issues, it will only strengthen the President's disposition because it will only make the opposition seem more frantic, desperate, and mean-spirited. Simply put, no President in the history of the United States has ever had to provide their birth certificate to prove their citizenship, and to insinuate that THIS president must PROVE his birth right citizenship to be a legitimate candidate for the presidency is insulting on principle and unreasonably suspicious of a man "unlike" the rest (and yes- I mean race).
I for one hope that President Barack Hussein Obama never shows his birth certificate. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:27 am | |
| Isn't it interesting how hate mongering and appealing to emotions is the best people can do in their desire to unseat the current administration? Other than the stupidity on the sidelines, I have been a proud citizen of the U.S. since President Obama was elected. I can't say I have been equally proud of the citizens or even my friends. It seems to me we need to be looking at who is serving as our "representatives" in Congress. Are the citizens of this country really "represented?" I don't think so.
For the sake of ratings, political commentators and "cult of the personality" people such as Palin and Trump get a groupee following for ideas that have not merit or factual base. They appeal to the base emotions of bigotry and fear, present in even the most liberal (it is natural to fear the unknown; intelligence and education provides the ability to rise above ignorance and seek truth from facts instead of emotional, blind faith appeal.) |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:08 am | |
| What's the big deal? This has been available for a long time. Birthers simply ignore it so the gullible will believe their lies. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 77 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:44 am | |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:51 am | |
| Can you imagine; I saw a thing with Trump who said the Certificate of Live Birth was not a birth certificate; that it could be a fake. What a jerk. Remember, he didn't become wealthy by his own intelligence; he became wealthy because he had his daddy's money to play with and take chances. He has failed many times; he just always had the name and money to get new loans and new backing to rise above his failures.
On the other hand, he knows how to appeal to the ignorant and ill-informed. I guess that's a skill that works well in this country. People will believe anything that feeds their own personal blinders. |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:59 pm | |
| Trump doesn't get to tell Hawaii how to certify births. |
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Pam Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1790 Registration date : 2008-02-01 Age : 58 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:06 pm | |
| If you really want to get involved in some fun campaign activity, the Canadian national (English) debates are starting right now and will be live streamed on CBC television's website (cbc.ca). Since we Canuck's are crazy about hockey the French debate had to be rescheduled because the Montreal Canadiens have their first playoff game the night it was originally scheduled, and it's the same people watching hockey that would watch the debates, no doubt. Oh Canada! |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 76 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:45 pm | |
| 4/12/2012
I really don't care about his birth certificate ! All I care about is how is this country going to fix itself before we all get flushed down the toilet by congress ! Evidently they don't give a dam about the so called middle class who's getting to be known as the poor class...
Cheers..Joe |
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Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:01 pm | |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:48 pm | |
| No taxation without representation dates back to 1750. Perhaps it needs a form of activation. I wonder what would happen if we refused to pay our taxes by claiming that our views and needs are not being represented? |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 81 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:06 am | |
| Some interesting data here: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/trumps-birther-libel-and-american-history/237217/ - Quote :
- Consider that, in 2008, one of the two major-party candidates actually was not born in the United States. That was John McCain, the child of American citizens born in the Canal Zone. Scholars debated the issue
in decorous fashion, but no serious buzz gathered around a suggestion that McCain was not a "natural-born citizen" as required by Article II. Instead, the whispers gathered around Barack Obama, who, as anyone but liars and lunatics now knows, was born in the United States..... I find myself wishing Obama had been born in Kenya. If he had, he'd still be eligible to be president. Article II does not require the president to have been born in the United States; it requires him or her to be a "natural-born citizen." That term is not defined in the document; but at the time of the framing, at least four British statutes made clear that children born abroad to British parents were "natural-born" subjects of the Crown. The first Congress after adoption of the Constitution passed a statute using the same language. The citizenship statutes in force in 1961 guaranteed the citizenship of any child born abroad to one American parent who had resided in the U.S. for two years after the age of 14. Even had Stanley Ann Dunham somehow teleported herself from Honolulu to Mombasa while in labor (which, for those "birthers" still puzzling out the big words in this article, she did not), her child would still be a "natural-born" citizen, as eligible to serve as John McCain. Ann |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 76 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:09 am | |
| 4/13/2011
Abe..
We'd all be in prison ! I've said for decades, we have taxation without representation. "We The People, For The People, By The People !" They seem to forget this phrase...
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 77 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Pending American Presidential Campaign Absurdity Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:27 am | |
| We ought to revolt against the continuous political campaigns and polls. So, so sick of it. |
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