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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:58 pm | |
| 1/26/2011 What is your opinion ?... New Mexico State Legislator is submitting a bill that wants people who file for un-employment to not only take a drug test but pay for the test themselves, they say if a person is taking drugs they shouldn't get un-employment and pay for their own drugs ! http://www.santafenewmexican.com/ Cheers..Joe... |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:17 pm | |
| 1/27/2011
Just read that Senator Orrin Hatch wants to add into un-employment extension bill the same law as New Mexico is planning and Florida has the same bill it wants to pass.
Cheers..Joe |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:25 am | |
| Obviously, those making those laws have never been through the debilitating experience of drawing unemployment. Better that they make available no-cost mental health services that include the potential for drug and substance abuse treatment. This long-term unemployment cycle is a shock to many families and bread winners. While many people have the survival instincts to just start with nothing over and over after losing jobs, houses, family stability and lifelong savings, everyone does not have the strength and after many failed attempts to start over, turn to a crutch. I do not condone the abuse of drugs or alcohol, but many people with wealth have the funds for legal prescriptions and psychiatry that helps them cope with life's shocks in addition to friends and resources for loans and other needed assistance. Those at the lower end of the financial spectrum don't have that luxury. This is just one more piece of evidence that legistlators are out of touch with reality. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:39 am | |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:37 am | |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:38 am | |
| NO! NO! NO! They don't drug test people who carry concealed guns--why plague the unemployed? The unemployed are badgered quite enough, in my not-humble opinion. Their employer paid unemployment benefits for them. What a lousy, idea! The politiicains need to think before they jump. A lot of their ideas are to further beat down the poor. Why not drug test the rich people before they give them a tax break? That would be the day. Make them pay for the test? If such an idea were even mentioned there would be hysteria and I mean mass by the poor wealthy folks. Drug test the politicians! |
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dmondeo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1485 Registration date : 2009-02-15 Age : 69 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:00 am | |
| Drug test the politicians! Some of their ideas seem to come from drug fueled sessions!! |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:32 am | |
| 1/27/2011
I read late last night that Orrin Hatch wants to take back the extra $25.00 per week that was given to the extension for un-employment, it was like an extra amount, I forget what they called it...Shocking !
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:04 am | |
| Orrin Hatch and his fellow Republican's need a lesson in math. They think that cutting taxes on the wealthy will fix this mess--what do they think brought it on?
I think: Fighting wars on borrowed money, cutting taxes, and a corrupt banking industry.
Now instead of fixing the problems, they wish to perpetuate them and blame the poor.
I wish the poor would quit voting these non-thinkers into office. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:40 pm | |
| 1/27/2011
Alice...
Politicians will do what they want, we don't count.......Florida also wants to do the same laws plus add in Welfare people receive.
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:38 pm | |
| Joe, That is pathetic. I am tired of it all. What next? |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:33 pm | |
| 1/28/2011
Just read a few minutes ago, Kentucky, Iowa, Idaho and another state want to make the same laws ! I think politicians have Indian runners running from state to state giving each other the same info. !
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:59 pm | |
| Joe, You are so right. I hope they reimburse the employers for the unemployment compensation benefits they paid for. |
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fleamailman Four Star Member
Number of posts : 957 Registration date : 2010-04-30
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:28 am | |
| "...nah, it's just a way to draw attention to themselves, they're so jealous of sarah palin who gets more attention than them with her mastery of zen here..." mentioned the goblin, wondering which state would be the first back the "shoot them on sight" unemployment initiative that will probably come soon, saying "...things are just going to get very worse now, the deception has yet to clear itself through the system, subprimes were only to beginning..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5teTFIRUh7g&feature=player_embedded#at=14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fpsdiBqdXY |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:59 am | |
| 1/28/2011
Alice..
From what I've read the states owe billions to the Feds., for the extended un-employment and in Sept. the interest comes due millions of dollars . I read the new idiot Gov.of NY (My sister- in-law works for the state,) are going to ax 10,000 state jobs ! Other states owe just as much or more for borrowing from the Feds., they're going to ax jobs too !
Cheers..Joe |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: HE PARTY LEAERS Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:23 am | |
| What a mess! It doesn't sound like many jobs are being created. Both parties are a complete disaster! The leaders need to have their heads examined. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:22 pm | |
| The U.S. doesn't stand alone. Other countries are experiencing their own employment disasters, too. |
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Betty Fasig Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4334 Registration date : 2008-06-12 Age : 81 Location : Duette, Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:32 pm | |
| So! Why don't we give drug test to people who die and if they have taken drugs let them rot! Sounds as sane to me. Love, Betty |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:36 pm | |
| - Betty Fasig wrote:
- So! Why don't we give drug test to people who die and if they have taken drugs let them rot! Sounds as sane to me.
Love, Betty Ann |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:55 pm | |
| 1/29/2011
Just talked to my sister-in-law tonight, she works for the State of New York, I was corrected by her, the idiot new Gov. of NY is going to lay off 22,000 people who workfor the state, not 10,000 like I read. I read recently that all the states that borrowed billions of dollars for their un-employment extension their interest on the money to the Feds. is due is Sept., millions of dollars in interest , we'll never get out of the pit !..
Cheers..Joe |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:08 am | |
| For the unemployed, no. For those on welfare, yes, along with mandatory birth control. |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:14 am | |
| And make them brush their teeth, too. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:35 am | |
| - Al Stevens wrote:
- And make them brush their teeth, too.
...and floss. Monitor their food intake, weight and attitude. Watch what books they read... They are poor so they must be bad. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:08 pm | |
| - Quote :
- And make them brush their teeth, too.
If they're receiving publicly paid dental benefits, sure. It's called being a good steward of your resources. If you can't afford to support yourself, you can't afford recreational drugs and more kids. I don't know why this is such an offensive concept to some. |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD DRUG TEST BE GIVEN FOR UN-EMPLOYMENT ? Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:58 pm | |
| The concept itself isn't offensive, and I wish more people would regulate their behavior accordingly. It's the notion of mandatory police-state enforcement that would trouble me. This book is still relevant. http://www.amazon.com/Steal-This-Urine-Test-Fighting/dp/0140104003/ |
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