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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:29 pm | |
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The right to die ? Do we have the choice? ...Read this about this beautiful young woman at 29 yrs old...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/opinion/maynard-assisted-suicide-cancer-dignity/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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Victor D. Lopez Four Star Member
Number of posts : 984 Registration date : 2012-02-01 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:56 pm | |
| I do not believe government has a right to criminalize suicide. The choice to live or to die with dignity should be an individual choice. I oppose the state mandating the maintenance of life as strongly as I do the state deciding when to end it by rationing healthcare or other resources. The choice to maintain each person's life is for each individual to make in accordance with his/her conscience and religion (or lack thereof). My religion forbids suicide. I can envision circumstances under which I would nevertheless end my own life despite the prohibition and hope that God would forgive my sin. If as I have been taught suicide is a mortal sin, so is blind trust in dogma based on the interpretation of God's will by mortal men who are no more capable of knowing the mind of God than I. No one has the right to take that decision from me. No one. Only God would judge me. No earthly authority has the moral right to do so. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:42 pm | |
| 10/07 Victor... BRAVO.................. Joe .................. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:44 pm | |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:08 am | |
| What Victor, Joe and Abe said.
As for me, when I am hospitalized, I wear a purple, DO NOT RESUSCITATE wristband. There is sound reasoning for this order. I have batteries inserted in my chest and wires running up to my brain. I wouldn't want them dislodged. Also my chest is cabled from coronary by pass surgery |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:49 am | |
| I think that a person who is ill (that includes mental depression) knows when life is no longer worth living. If one loses their mental capacity, they are not always aware of this loss and therefore need pre-written instructions concerning their wishes. When there is illness with much suffering and one cannot enjoy life, then I think it is time to pull the plug. Allowing nature to take its course without life-sustaining mechanical means, is preferable. When the condition reduces one to a vegetable state and one is mentally cognizant of their situation, I think they should have the right to call it quits. I realize that once in that state, I may have a change of opinion, but looking at it from the outside and seeing people in misery,my thoughts go with the person's right to decide. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:33 pm | |
| I don't agree with the part about depression. It is a mental illness, and part of the condition is that the patient does not know. Suicidal feelings are common and part of the illness.
Clinical depression can be treated and even cured.
Depression can also be a side effect of addiction, and the feelings of hopelessness that often accompany the condition.
What we need in those cases is a better understanding of mental illness, and an acceptance that mental conditions are no different from physical illness.
The study on happiness that Abe linked said that one of the most important factors in those high-ranking countries was that they recognized that it was a treatable disease and supported the means for effective treatment.
I do agree that terminal patients ought to have control over how their lives end. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:08 pm | |
| The treatment of mental illness in this "developed" country is abysmal. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:24 pm | |
| - dkchristi wrote:
- The treatment of mental illness in this "developed" country is abysmal.
The truth. |
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Betty Fasig Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4334 Registration date : 2008-06-12 Age : 81 Location : Duette, Florida
| Subject: Re: The Right To Die? Do We Have The Choice? Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:07 pm | |
| Hope. If there is no hope....but there always is hope. Life really is the prize. I would suffer much for that prize. Love, Betty |
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