| USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas | |
|
+3Abe F. March dkchristi joefrank 7 posters |
|
Author | Message |
---|
Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:35 am | |
| I agree that one must go to the source. It is at the source where the problem developed. The same scenario applies to conflicts where one must deal with the cause. A Virus doesn't recognize borders. When there was the scare about the Asian Bird Flu, one could not keep birds from flying into a country. The US is not the only country working to find a solution. The world is concerned and their medical teams are busy seeking solutions. I doubt you would hear about that on Fox News. |
|
| |
dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:50 am | |
| There are so many needs internationally that one must take them on in bits. I have a beautiful, green front yard as you drive by. When you park in the driveway, you see the dark green weeds that make beautiful lavender flowers that have roots that squeeze the life out of the grass.
I tried to tackle the weeds in the whole yard, out there in the hot sun with the rake and my gloves. The next day, the lavender blooms came out as usual and it didn't matter that I had piles of weeds from my day's labor.
Then, I sectioned off the yard. I started with a 4 X 4 square and each day only tackled the weeds in that square. It took months. However, one day, there were no more blooms.
We hit the world's problems like a shotgun, each individual charity splattered about the globe. Certainly there are enough geniuses and scientists across the globe that they could get together and divide up the world in squares and tackle it a square at a time by throwing all the available resources at that square.
My suggestion is in metaphoric terms but even in this thread we have an accumulation of ideas for tackling the virus but they get distracted by our political affiliations and our patriotism and our bias and prejudice - to our own detriment.
When all the resources were thrown at polio, it was almost eradicated in the world. Same with measles and others till stupid, selfish people in this country quit vaccinating their children due to fear mongering. Yes, some children will suffer from vaccinations - while the rest of the world's children live.
Closing borders would not stop polio.
Cholera, typhoid, tuberculosis - those are diseases of poverty and lack of sanitation and medical care. Fix those conditions in the countries where people are dying and stop its spread.
I think the movie with Angelina Jolie Beyond Borders is a well-crafted story to depict the hopelessness of trying to help with a scatter gun when politics and poverty are so severe. It's a vicious cycle. Much of war is the result of poverty - |
|
| |
dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:54 am | |
| There is a sequel to my yard weeds. They started coming back because my neighbor gave up. Her yard has no grass and only weeds. She mows it herself on occasion and the prevailing winds come from her direction, faithfully delivering the weed seeds to my grass.
My son offered to help her improve her yard a bit. Then he negotiated with my yard man a ridiculously low fee to mow her bit of yard which isn't much but the weed patch. Now, her yard is better, he cuts the weeds before they bloom and fewer seeds come my way. Now she's thinking about getting rid of her weeds in exchange for grass.
I know there's a moral to this sequel. The border between our two yards is no longer obvious. |
|
| |
Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:35 pm | |
| For those who still feel we must close the borders, that would mean placing a Quarantine on Texas. No one could enter or leave and that would include air travel. It is not a good solution. |
|
| |
joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:27 am | |
| 10/7
Saw his on CNN a Dr. says the Center For Disease Control is lying to the public about Ebola...
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/10/05/nr-intv-dr-mobley-hazmat-suit-at-airport-ebola.cnn.html
Joe |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:33 am | |
| The doctor is an obvious nutcase, and the CNN video simply proved that. |
|
| |
joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:43 am | |
| 10/6
I wonder about that ? After all he is a Dr. and we aren't, he should know more than John Doe public?
Cheers..Joe |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:45 am | |
| He flew in from Guatemala - wearing a hazmat suit. |
|
| |
joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:25 am | |
| 10/7
Read about the case in Spain about the nurse who has now gotten it she was helping a priest who died from it and now they have all these people in quarantine ...Who really knows how this spreads? I read that Gov. Butch Perry is in a tizzy over his state having it....Who knows maybe he'll lock down Texas and don't let anyone in ? After all he is rumored to be running for President? God help us he and Romney I don't think so, I didn't like what Romney said in an interview yesterday he would ban all gay marriage if he were in charge ! Ha ! Don't they realize as president you don't have any power, this isn't a third world country...
Cheers..Joe |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:27 am | |
| How's your breathing doing, Joe? That new inhaler helping? |
|
| |
joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:57 am | |
| 10/7
I haven't gotten it yet but I think it's one I had before he told me the name and I do know it's a disc, I do remember when you hit the button this powder comes out and I didn't like it because it hit the back of my throat, I prefer the Spiriva...How is you joint pain ? Did you hear about those apts yet ? Here I tried in three different ones and ths list is so long they said it would take more than a year, I probably would get one faster in San Antonio LOL...
LOve Joe |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:40 am | |
| The apt's on hold for now - maybe in a year or so. Selling and moving is too complicated right now. The joints are stiff again, but not quite as stiff as they were before I started seeing the rheumatologist. My hands are still better, and typing seems to be good for them. Much of the early improvement seems to have been due to the steroids, and I don't want to keep using them. Have an appointment Friday, and a list of questions for him. We will see.
Sometimes the treatments are almost as bad as the conditions, aren't they?
Annie |
|
| |
alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:43 am | |
| Joe and Ann,
I am so sorry you are troubled with these conditions. They are no fun. I hope somehow you both get better. Best always,
Alice |
|
| |
joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:33 pm | |
| 10/8
The guy in Dallas died this morning..God rest his soul..
Joe |
|
| |
Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:22 am | |
| Heard about that Joe. They were in the process of preparing a lawsuit against him. Case closed. |
|
| |
dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:09 pm | |
| I heard on NPR today they are a whisper away from a finger prick blood test - but as all things political - it has its issues. Like all the medicines sitting on docks for MONTHS in the infected countries because of lack of infrastructure to get it where it belongs.
Also, the lack of coordination among nations and agencies is abysmal - according the woman interviewed they need an Ike to take command of Ebola wherever it exists and coordinate the prevention and cure. |
|
| |
Betty Fasig Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4334 Registration date : 2008-06-12 Age : 81 Location : Duette, Florida
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:13 pm | |
| Annie, I hope you feel better. Joint pain is not joke. I deal with it myself. Monday is my doctor appointment. Like you, I have a lot to do and infirmities do not equate at all. I need narcotics, I think. I never give up. I will walk like Quasimodo before I say uncle. My best to you, my friend. Love, Betty |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:32 am | |
| Quasimodo - yes, that's what I think I must look like walking these days. My dr. is going to add a biologic to my regimen soon. He's looking in to the best way to go with that. It works by targeting specific parts of the immune system rather than the whole thing. Problem is they are generally expensive and not well covered by Medicare, but he says there are infusion versions that are covered through part B rather than D. It will mean going to a clinic once a month and sitting for an hour with a drip going into a vein, but if it works w/o costing a small fortune... He also assured me that he would get my symptoms under better control. So I'm happy. Annie |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:38 am | |
| Interesting bit I learned from dr. about new drugs and pharmaceuticals. It seems that the companies have to spnd small or not so small fortunes getting a new one approved, so, in order to recover those losses, they charge these exremely high amounts for the drug for some years. It's also harder to get insurance coverage for these new treatments, so only the wealthy can afford them. As he said, it isn't right, but it's the way the system works. |
|
| |
alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:17 pm | |
| Too bad anyone has to learn how drugs work--no fun at all. |
|
| |
Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:54 am | |
| Second case of Ebola in the US (Texas). With all the checking at the airports, it won't stop the virus from coming in. It is said that the incubation period is two-three weeks. Just because someone doesn't show a fever doesn't mean they are not infected when checked, there is a psychological benefit to the checking.
IMV, they should close the borders in the infected African countries, especially Liberia. No one going in or coming out until the virus is cured or until a antidote is found where an immunization against the virus can be administered. |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:27 am | |
|
Last edited by alj on Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:36 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| |
alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:58 am | |
|
Last edited by alice on Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:06 am | |
| Not sure how it got here. It was a response to Betty's thread on the first sale of her vegetables online. |
|
| |
alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:42 am | |
| As far as the nurse is concerned, she was treating the original patient at the same hospital in Dallas.
I don't know much about Dallas; I've been there, maybe three times. It's not my favorite place, just generally speaking.
Texas in general has some of the finest hospitals anywhere, especially in Houston, Galveston, and here in SA. Dignitaries from all over the world including Prince Albert and the Shah of Iran, have come to those centers, knowing they would get the best possible treatment.
Let's please not lay this circumstance at Texas' feet. |
|
| |
Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas | |
| |
|
| |
| USA First Ebola Case Is In Texas | |
|