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PostSubject: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 9:44 am

What does this mean?

"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 9:51 am

I fear I do not know!
I venture to guess a word was left out. and "Both" is inappropriate.

Should read:

Scam artists and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation.

or
if both must be there:

Scam artists and amateurs thrive on both inexperience and misinformation.

Color me mystified--- I don't know.

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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:12 am

Shelagh wrote:
What does this mean?

"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."

Unethical agents and publishers (scammers), particularly those who decided last week to become agents or publishers (amateurs) depend on the inexperience of eager new authors and the hype those authors are willing to believe. Those who are new to the business have not yet fallen under the eye of watchdog services.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:14 am

alice wrote:
Where did you find it?
http://absolutewrite.com/2011/02/08/the-pulse-of-publishing/
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:18 am

Al Stevens wrote:
Shelagh wrote:
What does this mean?

"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."

Unethical agents and publishers (scammers), particularly those who decided last week to become agents or publishers (amateurs) depend on the inexperience of eager new authors and the hype those authors are willing to believe. Those who are new to the business have not yet fallen under the eye of watchdog services.

The quote reminded me of Rober Fletcher (he of WLA and Eloquent Books). He fits both.

I can't wait for the Florida Attorney General to finally shut him down.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:37 am

[quote="Al Stevens"]
alice wrote:
Where did you find it?
http://absolutewrite.com/2011/02/08/the-pulse-of-publishing/[/quote]

Thanks, Al.

No wonder! They blame PA for their books?
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:47 am

Al Stevens wrote:
Shelagh wrote:
What does this mean?

"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."

Unethical agents and publishers (scammers), particularly those who decided last week to become agents or publishers (amateurs) depend on the inexperience of eager new authors and the hype those authors are willing to believe. Those who are new to the business have not yet fallen under the eye of watchdog services.
If that is what it means, is that what it says?
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 10:53 am

Shelagh wrote:
Al Stevens wrote:
Shelagh wrote:
What does this mean?

"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."

Unethical agents and publishers (scammers), particularly those who decided last week to become agents or publishers (amateurs) depend on the inexperience of eager new authors and the hype those authors are willing to believe. Those who are new to the business have not yet fallen under the eye of watchdog services.
If that is what it means, is that what it says?

It was not written by a linguist. You, or W. Lane Rogers, would have structured it both more concisely and eloquently. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 11:03 am

Clicked on the link -it was written by Marian Perera, did you expect coherency? What's even funnier is its pairing with that particular cartoon. 24 panels of repetition, boredom and nothingness -what a PERFECT partner to her post! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 11:12 am

Yes, I did expect a guest post on a writer's website to be coherent. I couldn't make any sense of it. Al thinks the amateurs are amateur agents/publishers, in which case they would be thriving on the inexperienced and the misinformed, not on inexperience and misinformation.

If the amateurs are aspiring writers, then how do they thrive on inexperience and misinfromation?

It's only a nine-word sentence; surely, it should make sense?
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 11:43 am

Once an editor, always an editor. Very Happy But you are right. I had to read the complete article to put that quote into context and find its apparent meaning.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 12:01 pm

Shelagh,

Be an editor. Charge by the hour. You will get rich fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 12:30 pm

I've tried that. I didn't get rich. The material I was sent to edit required a total rewrite...ghost writing is not my area.
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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 2:35 pm

Quote :
"Both scams and amateurs thrive on inexperience and misinformation."

"...yes, but why write "those who are inexperienced or misinformed can become prey to scams and amateurs" here, when that would betray the fact that one can write normally now..." mentioned the goblin, who had joined that forum at some point only to be banned straight off solely because he had an internet history, smiling "...pity they can't judge for themselves then, but they did me a favor by it..."

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PostSubject: Re: Colour me stupid but ...   Colour me stupid but ... EmptyFri Feb 25, 2011 3:32 pm

It means you should have given it a little more thought before putting it up
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[quote="fleamailman"]
Quote :
pity they can't judge for themselves then, but they did me a favor by it..."

Yes, they did.
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