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rainbow689 Four Star Member
Number of posts : 403 Registration date : 2008-04-15 Age : 73 Location : Laredo TX
| Subject: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Mon May 19, 2008 8:48 pm | |
| Angela Hoy of Book Locker has filed a class action suit against Amazon, it's good to see someone actually standing up to the bully and being counted
http://antitrust.booklocker.com/
Way to go Angela:farao:
It's not a pharoh it's a judge! |
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lin Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2753 Registration date : 2008-03-20 Location : Mexico
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Mon May 19, 2008 11:06 pm | |
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rainbow689 Four Star Member
Number of posts : 403 Registration date : 2008-04-15 Age : 73 Location : Laredo TX
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Tue May 20, 2008 5:04 am | |
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Dick Stodghill Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3795 Registration date : 2008-05-04 Age : 98 Location : Akron, Ohio
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Tue May 20, 2008 5:50 am | |
| If this actually ends up in court, which is unlikely, one of the first questions asked will be, "How do you force a retailer to sell certain products?" If Kroger chooses to sell only Post cereals can it be compelled to sell Kellogg cornflakes?" As Amazon lists books it does not sell itself and directs potential buyers to sites where the books may be purchased, a court is likely to see Amazon as the good guy. |
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Malcolm Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1504 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : Georgia
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 11:14 am | |
| Well, Dickm Kroger isn't forcing either Post or Kelloggs to use Kroger's generic cereal company to make their products, nor is it trying to establsh the Kroger Price as the price Post and Kelloggs must adopt when they sell their products elsewhere.
It's bad enough when grocery stores take name brands off the shelves and fill the space with store brands, but if that were all it were about at Amazon, then yes, the judge wouldn't see a point to it.
Malcolm |
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lin Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2753 Registration date : 2008-03-20 Location : Mexico
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 12:46 pm | |
| It's bad enough when grocery stores take name brands off the shelves and fill the space with store brands
That's bad? They're generall the same thing for cheaper. |
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Dick Stodghill Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3795 Registration date : 2008-05-04 Age : 98 Location : Akron, Ohio
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 1:06 pm | |
| Be sure of one thing, Amazon's battery of lawyers make sure they are on solid ground before the company ever makes a move. Amazon is, and will continue to be, the winner in the Booksurge affair. |
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E. Don Harpe Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1979 Registration date : 2008-01-17 Age : 82 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 1:29 pm | |
| "That's bad? They're generall the same thing for cheaper."
True. Store brands are produced at the same factories and on the same assembly lines as name brands, they just go into different packaging. More than likely either Post, Kelloggs, or General Mills has the contract to provide the larger grocery chains with all of their store brand cereal. BTW, a lot of dog food is processed exactly the same way as corn chips, it just gets a couple of additives that cereal doesn't get.
Most appliance plants produce not only their own brand, but have a couple of other brands that they make as well. You'd be surprised at which name brand appliances are contracted out and built by another company, with a slight difference in appearance and a different logo and name. Or at least this is the way it was done when we still built them here in America. I have no idea how China does it. |
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rainbow689 Four Star Member
Number of posts : 403 Registration date : 2008-04-15 Age : 73 Location : Laredo TX
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 2:53 pm | |
| - Dick Stodghill wrote:
- Be sure of one thing, Amazon's battery of
lawyers make sure they are on solid ground before the company ever makes a move. Amazon is, and will continue to be, the winner in the Booksurge affair. Sorry you feel that way Dick, that's probably what they said to David before he faced Goliath, at least Angela Hoy has the guts to stand up and be counted and actually start a law suit, she has my vote and whether she succeeds or not, at least she's doing something for all of us especially those whose 'buy now' buttons have been turned off. I for one hope she succeeds. If everyone had an attitude that there's no point in trying to combat scamazon we'll all be worse off with books that fall apart, are poorly produced and scamazon taking the lion's share of everyone's profits Would you object if I forward your comments to Angela Hoy? |
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Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 3:47 pm | |
| Rick, please could you reduce the number of links in your signature? Thanks. |
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lin Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2753 Registration date : 2008-03-20 Location : Mexico
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Wed May 21, 2008 8:27 pm | |
| Oh, I wouldn't be particularly surprized about branding, having done quite a bit of it.
Many people might, however, be surprized to find out that at the last time I did any of this stuff there were only four shoe manufacturors in the United States, only three makers of flashlight batteries outside of China, and only three makers of photgraphic film.
The rest is all branding.
But I don't see it as a problem. If Craftsman tools or President soda are the same as more expensive brands but cost less, fine. If people want to pay more for Liz Claiborne jeans, when the next 5000 that rolled off the same line had Sears brands on them, cool. |
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rainbow689 Four Star Member
Number of posts : 403 Registration date : 2008-04-15 Age : 73 Location : Laredo TX
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Thu May 22, 2008 2:44 am | |
| - Shelagh wrote:
- Rick, please could you reduce the number of links in your signature?
Thanks. Happy Now? |
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Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Thu May 22, 2008 3:42 am | |
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Malcolm Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1504 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : Georgia
| Subject: Re: Class Action Suit Against Amazon Thu May 22, 2008 9:02 am | |
| - E. Don Harpe wrote:
- "That's bad? They're generall the same thing for cheaper."
True. Store brands are produced at the same factories and on the same assembly lines as name brands, they just go into different packaging. More than likely either Post, Kelloggs, or General Mills has the contract to provide the larger grocery chains with all of their store brand cereal. BTW, a lot of dog food is processed exactly the same way as corn chips, it just gets a couple of additives that cereal doesn't get.
Most appliance plants produce not only their own brand, but have a couple of other brands that they make as well. You'd be surprised at which name brand appliances are contracted out and built by another company, with a slight difference in appearance and a different logo and name. Or at least this is the way it was done when we still built them here in America. I have no idea how China does it. Okay, bad analogy. I know that store brands are often made by the big well, known companies. (My Sears Kenmore is made by Whirlpool). On the other hand, this isn't always the case. If you compare the generic sugar at a Food Lion Grocery store with Domino Sugar, you'll note they don't taste the same. The price savings on the generic sugar is deceptive because the lower sweetness in it means one has to use more of it to get the same results as the Domino name brand in a recipe. This is what we're getting with BookPurge, sorry, BookSurge, a product of lesser quality for the same price. But unlike the grocery store, vendors placing their products there won't have a choice or even a label differentiation. Malcolm |
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