MOTHER NATURE OR EL NINO EFFECT ?

2/28/2010
Hi...

We'll as I write this at 8:00 AM we're having our 8th
snow storm in four weeks...This winter has been a
trip with severe snow storms all across the United
States, earthquakes , I say it's the El Nino effect. It
happens every three to four years and it wrecks havoc.
What is your opinion ?..


Cheers...Joe..

When you mess with mother earth, you should expect consequences.

2/28/2010

I beleive it's the " EL NINO EFFECT "
This shall pass too, I hope Spring is
around the corner !


Cheers..Joe

I wonder.  What I'm seeing is an increase in extremes or weather.  Which would be consistent with ozone thinning.   Where I live in Mexico we just had the hottest summer on record, followed by the coldest, stormiest winter.  The beaches here are eroding away to nothing, even though expensive methods are being used to prevent it.  I was just in California and saw the beaches there dramatically reduced.  I just saw shots of beaches I used to go to in San Francisco that now show no beach at all, just waves driving on rock.  I only see one way to interpret this: the water level is rising.  It would only take a tiny rise in depth to erase a hundred yards of flat beach.  Personally, I blame the whole thing on Al Gore.

Lin,
I was wondering who we could blame and your pick is Al Gore. I was thinking of Adolf since he's usually a good fallback.

Today we've had high winds across Germany. Planes re-routed, trains stopped, autobahn accidents, trees down and of course, people killed. Power outages continue. My PC has been off and on several times and that makes this post one of a few for tonight.

Lin said, "Where I live in Mexico we just had the hottest summer on record,
followed by the coldest, stormiest winter."

Same here in San Antonio, Lin.

I'll go with Al Gore. They say we all co-create reality. Gore got us believing in global warming and thinning ozone, and now it's real.

Ann

Quote :

You say I am repeating
Something I have said before. I shall say it again.
Shall I say it again?

"East Coker" Four Quartets T. S. Eliot

Quote :

I do not know much about gods; but I think that the river
Is a strong brown god—sullen, untamed and intractable,
Patient to some degree, at first recognized as a frontier;
Useful, untrustworthy, as a conveyor of commerce;
Then only a problem confronting the builder of bridges.
The problem once solved, the brown god is almost forgotten
By the dwellers in cities—ever, however, implacable.
Keeping his seasons and rages, destroyer, reminder
Of what men choose to forget. Unhonoured, unpropitiated
By worshipers of the machine, but waiting, watching and waiting.

"The Dry Salvages" Four Quartets T. S. Eliot

Ann

2/28/2010

I don't give a dam about Al Gore, I say
it's the El Nino Factor....Read up on it ...
After this year it won't come back for
another three years..


Cheers..Joe

Don,
from all I've read about the Native Americans, they respected nature. What they took, they gave back. We could all learn from them, unfortunately they were viewed as savages. What do they know?

Good quotes, Ann.

Joe, I'm not prepared to wait three years to find out if you're right. Seems past administrations found excuses to delay action while the pollution continued. In the end, who's right or wrong won't matter, but all will suffer the consequences.

Today is the first of March. March is said to be windy. I'll try to keep my comments brief.

3/1/2010

Mother nature has been around for millions
of years, we had the ice age, I'm sure man
didn't create that. All I know is for the last
few decades every three years we get the
El Nino factor and it causes havoc across
the USA and the world...

Cheers..Joe

That's OK, Joe,

During the late 1930's, my great uncle often said he didn't believe in Germany.

Ann

3/1/2010


LAST TIME " IT'S EL NINO"


Cheers...Joe

Good to know that you can find comfort in El Nino.

3/2/2010

Those are the facts...Wether anyone likes
it or not....


Cheers..Joe

Joe,
Your insistence that it is all about El Nino caused me to do some checking.

"How is Global Warming Related to El Niño and La Niña?
Some scientists believe that the increased intensity and frequency—now every two to three years—of El Niño and La Niña events in recent decades is due to warmer ocean temperatures resulting from global warming. In a 1998 report, scientists from NOAA explained that higher global temperatures might be increasing evaporation from land and adding moisture to the air, thus intensifying the storms and floods associated with El Niño."

http://environment.about.com/od/globalwarming/a/elninolanina.htm

If one reads the numerous articles on the subject, politics plays a large role. Since scientists are not in total agreement, it is easy to take the scientific view that suits.

I am not a scientist. I'm just an ordinary person that has experienced a change in the purity of air and water. The results not only affect the atmosphere but the lives of people. Sickness related to pollution is factual. Weather change is factual. The cause? In my limited and humble view, it is man who is destroying mother earth and she is responding.

Abe, thanks for the research!

Abe,

You might find this site interesting reading:

http://www.climatechangefacts.info/

My husband and I disagree on this issue of global warming frequently. I argue that I was a biology major long, long ago when we predicted even then how important the study of ecology and conservation was.

My take on the issue is we can't really find a definitive answer to "why" to the changes occurring.

We are each stewards of property on this earth to care for, We have pretty good knowledge on the value of recycling and the need to encourage the village or city we live in to use property in worthwhile ways.

Carol

What will happen now that the earth has been tilted 3 whatevers because of the Chilean earthquake?

Did we cause that?
Isn't weather an act of God?

Alice, From what I've read, the Chilean earthquake could shorten our days
slightly.

The pollutants that we humans have put into the air are thinning the ozone layer. The ozone layer protects the planet from overexposure to the sun. So, indirectly, we are contributing. If we do what is necessary to clean the air, we can help slow it down.


Just me.

Ann

Is the Airborne Fraction of
Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Increasing?

ScienceDaily (Dec. 31, 2009)
— Most of the carbon dioxide emitted by human activity does not remain
in the atmosphere, but is instead absorbed by the oceans and terrestrial
ecosystems. In fact, only about 45 percent of emitted carbon dioxide
stays in the atmosphere.
However, some studies have suggested that the ability of oceans and
plants to absorb carbon dioxide recently may have begun to decline and
that the airborne fraction of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions is
therefore beginning to increase.
Many climate models also assume that the airborne fraction will
increase. Because understanding of the airborne fraction of carbon
dioxide is important for predicting future climate change, it is
essential to have accurate knowledge of whether that fraction is
changing or will change as emissions increase.
To assess whether the airborne fraction is indeed increasing,
Wolfgang Knorr of the Department of Earth Sciences at the University of
Bristol reanalyzed available atmospheric carbon dioxide and emissions
data since 1850 and considers the uncertainties in the data.
In contradiction to some recent studies, he finds that the airborne
fraction of carbon dioxide has not increased either during the past 150
years or during the most recent five decades.
The research is published in Geophysical Research Letter

Science Daily

Hi Alice,
It's good to see you back here. Here's an article on the earthquake in Chile moving the earth off its axis about 3 inches and possibly causing time to be shorted by about 1.26
microseconds.

http://www.theadventurelife.org/2010/03/earths-day-shortened-axis-tilted-by-chile-earthquake/