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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: VA in the news Thu May 22, 2014 9:15 pm | |
| Finally attention is given to the VA. Previous attention was directed to cutting benefits. Now we hear that getting treatment is the big issue. Waiting 10 months for treatment of illness/injury during service is a disgrace. It is a far cry from what Dick Stodghill received. He was high on the service and treatment he received from the VA. It is now a political issue with finger pointing trying to place the blame on Obama. I don’t think anyone can seriously believe that the problems started with Obama; however that does not excuse him from his responsibility as Commander-in-chief. |
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Don Stephens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1355 Registration date : 2008-01-25 Age : 85 Location : Wherever my hat's hanging today!
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 23, 2014 5:10 am | |
| VA individual treatment really depends on the particular hospital!!!! Except the whole system is underfunded!!!! It has been that way since WWII SEND THEM TO WAR AND FORGET THEM!!!!!!!! Don't get me started. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 23, 2014 7:36 am | |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 23, 2014 2:57 pm | |
| My understanding is that once in the system, the care is often better than private hospitals with several innovations beyond private care. The issue is getting accepted to the system. |
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Betty Fasig Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4334 Registration date : 2008-06-12 Age : 81 Location : Duette, Florida
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 23, 2014 5:08 pm | |
| Everything seems to be President Obama's fault.. even stuff that goes back to the Vietnam war. That is the political hype and many people are ready to agree with that and blame him for things that go all the way back to Reagan.; I wonder if this points to the lack of political knowledge of this country or the success of the hype spewed by Fox and the other media outlets.....let us not forget the good Christian and Patriots; Who was it that said that the death of this country will be clothed in the flag and carrying a bible. I believe that is the Tea Party personified. Love, Betty |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 23, 2014 7:01 pm | |
| 5/23/2014 The VA Scandal is growing across the country, several Dr.'s have blown the whistle, many Veterans are furious, many have died by just waiting, I'm ashamed of my own country letting this happen to our great vets. I'm pretty sure this has been going on for years, I think it's time heads roll big time and the head of the VA should be next ! I wonder if thousands are still waiting for VA Disability ? That's another scandal that they were suppose to deal with, just like every thing else swept under the rug and it's not good enough for the media. Joe... |
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Don Stephens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1355 Registration date : 2008-01-25 Age : 85 Location : Wherever my hat's hanging today!
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Sat May 24, 2014 8:33 am | |
| DK, getting accepted isn't all that difficult. It's a more a matter of where it's available. The nearest place I can get VA support is a sixty mile drive. For me to see a VA doctor is an all day adventure. My doctor is less than a mile from my house. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Sun May 25, 2014 9:42 am | |
| From my limited perspective, it seems that the veteran's need has, over time, been outgrowing the existing hospitals' ability to serve those needs. As the situation worsened, the responsible persons at some of the hospitals chose to cover the problem by "doctoring" the statistics, which led to nore and more patients needs being neglected.
We seem to be entering a period of disclosure, when more and more of these "secrets" are being exposed. That's generally a good thing. Now that it is out in the open, resolutions can be found.
It isn't, to my thinking, about assigning blame. It's an old problem. The answers won't be found in blaming the current, or recently past, administrations. The answers can now be approached in a more open manner, and hopefully resolved.
Anybody remember a Tom Cruise film called Born on the 4th of July? It explored one individual soldier's struggles. If you aren't familiar with it, check it out.
Meantime, let's focus on finding a positive solution.
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Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 30, 2014 7:48 am | |
| - alj wrote:
- From my limited perspective, it seems that the veteran's need has, over time, been outgrowing the existing hospitals' ability to serve those needs. As the situation worsened, the responsible persons at some of the hospitals chose to cover the problem by "doctoring" the statistics, which led to nore and more patients needs being neglected.
We seem to be entering a period of disclosure, when more and more of these "secrets" are being exposed. That's generally a good thing. Now that it is out in the open, resolutions can be found.
It isn't, to my thinking, about assigning blame. It's an old problem. The answers won't be found in blaming the current, or recently past, administrations. The answers can now be approached in a more open manner, and hopefully resolved.
Anybody remember a Tom Cruise film called Born on the 4th of July? It explored one individual soldier's struggles. If you aren't familiar with it, check it out.
Meantime, let's focus on finding a positive solution.
Wow, I’m impressed. You have your finger on the pulse of every topic facing the world today. How do you know so much about everything? |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 30, 2014 8:31 am | |
| 5/30/2014 I just read about a WW2 Vet who has applied over a 66 yr period for his benefits, he's a wounded WW2 vet, he has been denied and lied to " Sorry your records were destroyed in a fire," Finally two or three years ago he had a friend help him and was granted benefits but not for the 66 yrs since WW2, he gets $822- a month and a lump sum of $7,000-. His friend said that's wrong you should fight them, he said are you kidding I could never go through another battle with the VA, I would be dead beofre they settle, he's in his 80's. The Vet administration needs to be totally overhauled , it's disgusting the way our vets are treated, I blame the govt. and the politicians... Cheers..Joe.. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 30, 2014 8:35 am | |
| Looks like Shinseki has resigned:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/politics/va-hospitals-shinseki/ |
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Domenic Pappalardo Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2557 Registration date : 2009-04-27
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 30, 2014 8:45 am | |
| - alj wrote:
- Looks like Shinseki has resigned:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/politics/va-hospitals-shinseki/ After the fifty phone calls from you every day, it's no wonder he resigned. I'll bet he even left the State, and changed his name. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Fri May 30, 2014 8:58 am | |
| 5/30/2014 A victory today for all vets, Shineski resigned ! YES ! Now maybe the idiots in washington can put someone who knows what their doing , Maybe ? As usual they always put idiots in charge......More heads to roll in Nov. when the elections come.... Cheers...Joe.. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:04 pm | |
| My father -in-law was in a VA hospital in Arkansas. We visited him and could never see a doctor. He claimed there were rats running around beneath his bed at night. I believe him.
His roommate finally had a stroke after being there for days. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:05 pm | |
| How much do we know about efforts Shineski may have made to get funding for more help? I think there is more behind the failure of the VA to provide service than just bad management. Resigning may suggest guilt, but I just don't buy it. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:29 am | |
| I thought I wrote in a post but cannot find it regarding executives being fired or resigning when their organization is as complex as banking and VA. When the bankers destroyed the U.S. economy they were not fired; they were given bonus payments to remain and help unravel the mess they created in the belief that no one else knew the inner secrets that had to be unwound.
That was my belief regarding Shineski. Of course, the bankers and high rollers were part of the republican oligarchy and untouchable - no convictions - no arrests - while they illegally took the country into ruin.
Shineski had all the right credentials; however, he inherited a complex responsibility with entrenched public servants already running things. He made major changes by reducing the numbers waiting for disability services and implementing services for those who suffered from agent orange. Sophisticated electronic data systems for medical records were implemented that are better than any private hospital. Cutting edge care for wounded, returning service members has given them the ability to live quality lives unlike returning vets in the past. I'm sure the list continues.
I believe he had to resign to keep from laying blame where blame was due. He took it on himself. The VA is a political football for both parties and the scandal staying alive with speculations about his firing or resignation was not a positive political situation. He had the credentials to fix whatever was wrong by turning his attention to that area. He probably had better credentials than anyone.
But he was not receiving $billions in salaries, benefits, perks and bonus payments like the bankers and corporate moguls who would have abandoned ship if they were not provided further incentives to stay. The golden parachutes with which they left provided ample opportunity to continue funding the Congressional representatives from whom they received benefits.
Shineski can't benefit anyone politically by remaining in place and fixing the problem. Those who called for his resignation were not seeking a solution, they were seeking a political goat. He left. From all I know about the man he is a man of loyalty, integrity, intelligence, and experience with a personal vested interest in serving vets. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: VA in the news Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:53 am | |
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