Mel's Forum?

I'm a her, Joe.

2/27/2011



Oooooops , Sorry....I never met you before.


Cheers..Joe

Thats ok. I love your artwork. Youre very talented.

2/27/2011

Lynn..

" Thank You," I try....

Cheers..Joe...

lyntx wrote:

Ann, all I know is what I see right here on this forum. What youve done in the past is the past. I don't think your misunderstood or anything else. You state your opnions, and as Alice said, everyone is entitled to them. You have a snobbishness about commerical fiction, well, I have a snobbishness about certain other things, but I wouldn't go among people that like those things and put them down by action or words, then hollar I've been misunderstood.

As I said before, your supposed to be a writer. If your not understood, then write better.

Yet you go among people who love Ann and put her down? Come on!

Im only responding to her putdowns against something I love, so why is that my crime? Shes allowed to say anything and if I dont like it, I'm wrong?

I thought I was going to learn from writers, writers that were wordly and believed in writing, no matter if its com or literary. Clearly, if you support someone who looks down her nose at a form of writing, I dont belong.

lyntex,

I have not accused you of a crime. There is no crime in an argument.
Let's be accurate here.

I will no longer respond to this thread.

Why? It is far off topic and I am bewildered by it.

No offense to anyone.

"...well it's no wonder I remain anonymous on forumland..." voiced the goblin again, somehow breakfast was no longer that casual newspaper-read over toast and coffee that it had once been, where even the television too, seems so contrived to skip over the important factors in life, as to hardly seemed worth watching now, yes, oil had peaked, and yes, america was never going to leave iraq while the remaining oil supply would either go to the highest bidder or to those firmly in place there, moreover, everyone knew that the dollar's debt of trillions was insurmountable now, so the goblin just said "...it's all just borrowed time isn't it, where everything you see and everywhere you look is all fossilfuel based products, so within this context then, can one seriously be arguing here about whether one genre of book is more important than another, while we're soon reaching seven billion people on our planet now, and where most agriculture is fossilfuel dependent, the fertilizer from natural gas, transportation, etc., so now, with this in mind and with a writing ability less than those around me here, you tell me what I really should be using my pen for..."

Yes, Goblin, there are far more important worldly issues to argue over than your favourite reading matter. There is plenty choice out there for readers to like and dislike. Readers and writers alike should be able to say what they like and what they don't like. It will be a sorry day indeed when people are no longer allowed to crticise literature.

(There's a lot of liking in the above paragraph!) Editors nightmare!

What's schlock, what's not? What is formula writing in fiction?

Virtually all fiction has some kind of formula. Beginning-middle-end. That's a formula. Kurt Vonnegut was able to write without using one. Not many others can or could. The value is in the quality of the writing, and that's a subjective measure, too, with a built-in contradiction. If your writing appeals to most people, it is considered to be of lower quality than that written on a higher plane. But wait. Steinbeck appeals to most people. Hemingway. Hammet.

That was then. Art has a way of descending, depending on your perspective, over time from Beethoven to Madonna, from Monet to Warhol, from Dickens to Patterson. The elitism index is a constantly sliding pointer, shifted by the whims of the mass consumer and the weight of the masses.

2/27/2011


You say " Tomatoe, " I say " Tomato," Let's call
Let's call the whole thing off....


Cheers..Joe

I still think Dr. Seuss is one of the most brilliant authors around.

And he never used vulgar language.

My favorite book, and I just bought a copy for my godson, is the Sesame Street Little Golden Book "The Monster at the End of this Book".

I doubt anyone here (me included) could write a better classic than that.

So there!!!


ps - JoeFrank, my avatar is in love with your avatar.

.... and now my avatar is brokenhearted.