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joefrank
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6/9/2011


I just read this and I'm shocked ! Un-employment benefits will
fade away, many states cutting back, people will only get 26 weeks,
States owe the Feds billions of dollars in borrowed money. What is
your opinion ?

Cheers..Joe

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/09/news/economy/unemployment_benefits/index.htm?iid=HP_Highlight
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PostSubject: Re: UN-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FADING AWAY-WHAT WILL PEOPLE DO ?   UN-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FADING AWAY-WHAT WILL PEOPLE DO ? EmptyThu Jun 09, 2011 7:37 am

Give the rich a tax break--then they will have the money to create jobs. Cut gov't spending, Send a lewd emal, father a child, who has time to worry about the unemployed? Certainly not the politicians they have important issues to deal with such as the foregoing.


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Abe F. March
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What happened to government guarantees. Social Security, Unemployment, Medicare are all things the government should guarantee. Where they get the money is for them to figure out. The tax breaks for the rich is a good place to start. If people can get rich using the American economy, they need to pay for that opportunity. Taking without giving in return stinks. People who pay taxes should do so with pleasure, it means they made money.

The unemployed are seldom unemployed by choice. The land of opportunity is suffering. It needs healing. If they can find money to fight wars and support people in other countries, they can find money to support the citizens they are elected to serve. The only serving they are they doing is self-serving.

We the people... begins the preamble to the constitution. We the people must speak out and make our wishes known. Any candidate for office should be required to state what they intend to do and then hold them accountable.

Seeing a nation crumble is not a pretty thing. There's always hope, but doing nothing won't change anything. The fact that we're responding to this thread means we care. We need to express our feelings and encourage others to do the same. Let the politicians know that we mean business. If they want a job, they must earn their pay by serving the people they represent.
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6/9/2011

Abe..

Your 1000% correct !


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Abe,

You said it very well and I do hope you detected the sarcasm in my reply.
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Saw this comment on the article and agree with it:

"Well,
people are going to have to do jobs that they don't want to do. A farm
down here in florida had to allow people to come pick their own
tomatoes before they rotted on the vine. The farmer could not find
people who would work the farm and pick the tomatoes....even at a decent
pay rate. So there are jobs out there, just not particularly
attractive ones. Our American ancestors would be disgusted with how
soft we have become as a nation"
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On a tangent, the WSJ had an article recently about what a bloated benefit monster Social Security is now, how far it has veered from its original mandate, and how one judge in particular in W Va gives out benefits left and right, so much that other judges have complained about it. His response was, "They act like it's their own money they're giving away."

Too many entitlement benefits in this country, and 99 week unemployment checks are one of them. Some of the people in that photo look like they could benefit from a few months in a citrus grove.
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Are we forgetting that workers pay into an unemployment fund? If they don't want to pay benefits, why do they collect the tax?

As for Social Security, the money belongs to the people who paid into the fund. The difference between the US and other countries, is that the US government treats the money as if it was their money. They use it (steal it) and then say there is no more money to pay. They pay no interest on the money they take from the fund.

To tell a Vet that his health benefits will be discontinued is a disgrace to this country. There should be a march, not on Washington, but on the Republican headquarters by all Vets. They were promised these benefits when they signed up to serve their country and risk their lives. It is a "Breach of Contract".
Let any service person refuse to fulfill his signed obligations to the US Military and he would be subject to Court Martial.

I expect there will be many who refuse to enlist or re-enlist should these benefits be denied. Gun ownership came into play when the US had no standing Army. If we lose our standing Army, gun ownership may serve some purpose.
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Are we forgetting that workers pay into an unemployment fund? If they don't want to pay benefits, why do they collect the tax?

Does that tax pay for 99 weeks? Or 26 weeks?

I didn't say anything about health benefits for veterans. About Social Security, the WSJ article said that people are collecting disability benefits for any and everything they present, and there are no rules for re-presenting themselves later to see if their situation has changed. Many people are on disability, yet have returned to the same work they claimed made them disabled, or do other physically challenging things.
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Whether its 26 or 99 weeks, doesn't mean they have employment when the benefits run out. Are they to stop eating? I think a cap is appropriate as far as the amount they receive, but not a complete cut-off. A cut-off usually means they wind up on welfare, and the money comes from a different fund.

The unemployment or Employment office as it is called, doesn't have a good track record in helping people find employment. Perhaps if a job was offered, any job, and the person turned it down after the normal cycle of benefits expire, there would be justification to cut them off.
The information about Vets benefits being cut off is on a different thread. Check it out.
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LC wrote:
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Are we forgetting that workers pay into an unemployment fund? If they don't want to pay benefits, why do they collect the tax?

Does that tax pay for 99 weeks? Or 26 weeks?

I didn't say anything about health benefits for veterans. About Social Security, the WSJ article said that people are collecting disability benefits for any and everything they present, and there are no rules for re-presenting themselves later to see if their situation has changed. Many people are on disability, yet have returned to the same work they claimed made them disabled, or do other physically challenging things.

Who said that people collect disability for any and everything they present. I don't know which planet he is on.
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The stories are singular situations. Hand down, the people in the U.S. are suffering. People who want employment cannot become employed. A general malaise is about from discouragement.

Picking tomatoes at one farm will not fix unemployment.

The Republican cuts to benefits, government jobs and education are a travesty. My wealthy friends are clapping their hands in glee as they play eTrade on their computers with their stock market gains.

There are people who work the system in any system, private or public. The rule is that many people today need a leg up. Instead, they are being cut off at the ankles.
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DK,

This is a horrid thought, but your friends would change their attitudes if they became unemployed or disabled.




LC,

Funny how we thought we would never get old. I remember looking at myself in the mirror trying to imagine what I would look like as an old person. I don't have to do that any longer--I now can see. lol!

Why are we in such a hurry to cut unemployment benefits? If the unemployed have no money to spend, no jobs to tax how are we going to get anywhere?

We seem to still have money for war.


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Dear Alice,
The thing is that at our age, we are not really old any longer.

Once a person gets over the changes in their facade and gets on with the living of life, old age does not matter. We have lots to learn and lots of experiences to offer, words to write, love to give, places to go, we have the stuff of life to do every day.

I am reminded of our friends Carol. Lane and Dick and Rainbow, how they never gave up the living of this life. It had to be taken from them.


Love,
Betty
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Bummer! I miss them all.
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