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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:15 am | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
- Carol,
you touched on a sensitive subject. Numerous books have been written about the subject of why people stray. Everyone has needs as simple as having reassurance that they are loved. How often have you heard someone say, "They know I love them. Why do I have to tell them?" Being taken for granted sets the stage for seeking reassurance of self-worth elsewhere. Abe, Some people are insecure--they want to be worshipped. They do not like themselves. No matter what one did they would feel neglected. The very institution of marriage should provide some security. I think everyone should be able to take for granted that their spouse wlll be faithful to them. People stray because they want to, then blame the spouse. If the marriage is intolerable--divorce don't stray. Clinton, Kenendy, Edwards, Woods, poor unloved guys? I don't think so. More like unscrupulous guys. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:58 am | |
| - Carol Troestler wrote:
- Alice said, "If I had an affair, no one would care. I am Mrs Nobody. I do not make any dollars off of my public image."
Not true. To have an affair in isolation that doesn't hurt a whole bunch of people is not likely. There are children and spouses. Then there are siblings and grandparents who have to decide on loyalties or say good-bye to those in-laws they've come to love, or grandchildren.
No, it is seldom between two people and harmless
I once had a friend, a man in our town who became "sweet" on me for some reason. It was no secret to anyone, and I guess people had enough faith in me and trust to not think of it as gossip or make assumptions. At the time I had lots of kids, and my husband had just made a major promotion after lots of work and time away from home. I ended up at a party without my husband and danced and had a two hour conversation with this man. I hadn't had a two hour conversation with anyone in years. My everyday life always had interruptions.
Somehow something inside came alive, the individual woman inside. And somehow my whole life was renewed. No one did anything to cause difficulties to wives, husbands and children, but God worked in a strange way to make a woman feel alive and a better mom, neither sacrificing myself, my integrity nor my family.
All are stories. But I do not believe there is such a thing as a "one night stands" just between two people.
Carol How did you keep this from escalating. Most conventional wisdom is that if there is an attraction--get and stay far away. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:09 pm | |
| One of the major problems I see with infidelty is that the perpetrator always feels justified and indignant when caught.
We had an elder in our church, he was on the church board, ran the School board and had affairs.
Of course it was not his fault. His wife was crazy--he could have sought medical help or divorced her--he just sneaked about and had affairs.
He wanted to appear very pious.
Enough! |
| | | Carol Troestler Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3827 Registration date : 2008-06-07 Age : 86 Location : Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:46 pm | |
| Like you, Alice, I am a woman of puritanical ways, faithfulness and integrity. That other man didn\'t hold a candle to my husband and I knew that. And I did not keep it a secret from anyone, least of all my husband. But my husband trusted me so much, I realized the gem I had in him. Others could see that the caring of this other person was not just a sexual thing, but a caring thing.
Later I had a male business partner. We would go on trips together to training sessions. My husband always trusted me and indeed he was correct in doing so.
Another thing is that often other women aren\'t the only thing taking a man away from his spouse or vice versa. The divorce rate among pilots is over 75%. At Marine Corps functions I am considered one of the few original issue wives. Those of us in that position have spoken of how our marriages have survived. Pilots can love airplanes with all their hearts and souls. As military pilots they do very dangerous death defying maneuvers and celebrate their survival.
The wives decided what has kept our marriages together has surprisingly been our independence, our not waiting at home, our pursuing our own lives, our own careers and valuing the times we have together, and our learning how to do things ourselves.
At first I was told to never have an argument with my husband because it could cause him to go out and crash his plane. It took a few years but I discovered when he flew, the world and all in it slipped away. He was indeed above the clouds, close to heaven even. No one who flew on his plane was ever in danger because their safe arrival at their destination was foremost in his mind.
In the last year people have remarked on the person he has become, the absolutely loving devoted man. I am his airplane. It is with me he reaches the heavens.
Each love is a story.
Alice, I realized that silly mistake and went back to edit!! What was I thinking. Thanks for reminding me of that.
Carol
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| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:23 pm | |
| Carol,
Well done.
Thanks for the clarification. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:03 pm | |
| Phew! I guess I got that off my chest--would anyone like to know how I really feel? Sometimes I scare myself! |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:02 pm | |
| Abe has read Arirang: The Bamboo Connection and Ghost Orchid. They both include characters caught in the webs of infidelity or relationships outside marriage. To counterbalance those themes (though they are not the main plot of either novel), I wrote a tongue in cheek story, "Affairs of the Heart - The Rulebook." I highly recommend it. It is a step by step guide to having an affair without causing harm to anyone............with a surprise ending. It's only 49 cents at Amazon Shorts and very, very appropropriate to today's rag headlines. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:10 pm | |
| Got it, read it. Well done. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:12 pm | |
| I hear Tiger's wife has moved out of his house.
That is a good move. If he wishes to be single, so be it. |
| | | Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:41 pm | |
| One can buy sex but not love. |
| | | LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:06 am | |
| LOL, his whores are coming out of the woodwork. He's up to seven now. Which means the real number is probably triple that. |
| | | alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:34 am | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
- One can buy sex but not love.
That is for certain. |
| | | Carol Troestler Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3827 Registration date : 2008-06-07 Age : 86 Location : Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Tiger Woods Crash Witness Speaks(Video) Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:28 am | |
| Sex is moments. Love can be forever. How many women think the men are looking for love. Monica was a perfect example.
Carol |
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