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PostSubject: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 8:02 am

How do books get in bookstores?
Doesn't the owner order them?

Hiw many authors here have their books in bookstores?
Just curious, as usual.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 9:38 am

Owners? That would imply independent bookstores. I know of precisely one independent bookstore in my metro area.

Chains buy via their corporate headquarters. The publishers mail them a catalog, or a sales rep visits them. Certain titles are pushed more than others, and some will "lead" the catalog. The corporate buyer goes through the catalog and buys X number of titles for all the stores.

I don't know how much say each manager gets. I'm sure they can order some books of local interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 9:55 am

Academic books recover most of a publisher's costs from the sales of books to libraries. If books are on a recommended reading list, university bookstores will buy books either directly from the publisher or through a distributor. The rest of the sales are online and from bookstore chainstores (Borders, B&N etc.), bought on consignment from distributors such as Ingrams. The risk to the publisher is far less than the risk to publishers of fiction and non-fiction because of the guaranteed library sales.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 10:34 am

Mystery:

My book is in a local Barnes and Noble bookstore and I did not place it there.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 10:37 am

If enough customers requested the book, Alice, the store would consider stocking a few copies.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 10:40 am

alice wrote:
Mystery:

My book is in a local Barnes and Noble bookstore and I did not place it there.

Did you generate publicity in your town ? Maybe the manager saw an article in the paper or something and then ordered it? Maybe a friend requested it?
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 10:57 am

11/3/2009

Several book stores here have my book " Dusty,"
in their store, one was a book signing and the
other put it in their store because I approached
them....

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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 11:05 am

This is how Simon and Schuster does it. They operate in similar fashion to other commercial publishers.

My publisher wholesales it's books through both Ingrams and Barker and Taylor, as well as a few others for niche areas like libraries and schools, and Distibooks in Canada. My publisher is large enough to have it's own marketing and sales force (a small publisher in Texas who is reprinting a special edition of my first novel uses Ingram Publisher Services for it's sales and marketing).

This sales force goes out and sells to the various chains and has regional offices that hit the smaller chains and the indies. Sometimes they use Ingram Publisher Services for this. These sales people present catalogs and ARCs to buyers and managers who then will (hopefully) place big orders for the books. Simon and Schuster also sweetens the pot by paying for front table placement, end caps and window displays on certain books.

That's how my books have ended up in bookstore shelves.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 11:06 am

Lucky You!



I remember you!

Your publisher is on the ball. They even make donations and let you deduct them from your taxable income.

How did you manage to get them to publish your book?

Why won't you tell us the name of it so we can walk into a bookstore and look at it.

I want to hold it in my hand.

Why do you hang around losers such as we are?


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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 11:33 am

Thanks for the information, Chris! What would we do without you?
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 11:39 am

Oh if we could only attain to Chris's level of expertise. We would all have it "made in the shade."

Do tell us more.Books in Bookstores Lol Books in Bookstores Lol Books in Bookstores Lol

I would wager you have even been on Larry King.



Aw Phooey! You ran away again.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 12:29 pm

I'd just like to know why an Apex reviewer is in his avatar.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 12:35 pm

He/She won't stay around and talk with us.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 1:58 pm

Who is Chris?
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 2:42 pm

Good question.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 3:31 pm

11/30/2009

Who are all these lurkers ?


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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 3:33 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Who is Chris?

Cturkel, kdu, JCT-- illustrious, knowledgeable, helpful author, extraordinaire. Books in Bookstores Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 6:44 pm

alice wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Who is Chris?

Cturkel, kdu, JCT-- illustrious, knowledgeable, helpful author, extraordinaire. Books in Bookstores Lol

I'm only Cturkel. And I'm fantastically boring and unhelpful. But I make a mean cheesecake.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 6:52 pm

Welcome back!
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 6:54 pm

Why thank you! NaNoWriMo has kept me out of trouble. Not even time to make cheesecake. No rest for the wicked!
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 6:57 pm

and the righteous don't need it. How do you keep track of yourself?

One minute you are a man the next a woman--must be a challenge.
You keep changing your initials.

Oh well whatever... As you wish.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 7:04 pm

I'm not anyone but me. One ID. That's it. That's how I keep track of me.

Wait? Is thread becoming about me? Oh goody! I'm an egomaniac! Bring it on!
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 7:21 pm

It's all about you--don't leave, I love to toy with your vacant mind.

Have you written any books lately?
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 7:28 pm

My mind is hollow, thank you. "I am large and contain next to nothing."

I just finished NaNoWriMo. Letting the brains recharge for a while before writing again.
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PostSubject: Re: Books in Bookstores   Books in Bookstores EmptyMon Nov 30, 2009 8:51 pm

cturkel wrote:
I'm not anyone but me. One ID. That's it. That's how I keep track of me.

Doesn't the Christopher Eccleston avatar confuse you?
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