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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:47 am

The fake news comes from both sides, Abe. Three CNN journalists, including the executive editor in charge of a new investigative unit, have resigned after the publication of a Russia-related article that was retracted.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/media/cnn-announcement-retracted-article/index.html

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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:27 am

71/2017

††††††††††††††††††††† Everyone a " Happy - Safe 4th of July,"† Yes Abe, CNN are liars,
†† they would make up a story on The Virgin Mary† if they could and get away with
†† it !

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Cheers..... Joe
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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:53 pm

Happy fourth, Joe! Hope you are well.

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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:34 am

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†††††††††††††††††† Shelagh..

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Thanks ! Last Mon went †to the Bone Surgeon, he said I need an MRI
to see if I tore cartledge on my left knee on the left side, I've been in pain and if I stand too
long it puts a severe pressure on my leg, we'll see, the Imaging Center has to get approval
from my insurance .....Have a Happy Holiday. Oh by the way Miss Dusty turned 17 in May...
She's older than us, in human life 80 ...

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Love Joe & Dusty




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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:27 am

joefrank wrote:
71/2017

††††††††††††††††††††† Everyone a " Happy - Safe 4th of July,"† Yes Abe, CNN are liars,
†† they would make up a story on The Virgin Mary† if they could and get away with
†† it !

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Cheers..... Joe
As for a story on the Virgin Mary, the "Virgin" part is still being debated by biblical scholars.† Questioning the validity of the virgin birth would certainly be attacked.† I don't think that anyone in the media would want to touch this sensitive subject.
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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:02 am

As I have often said, any profession is made up of people.† All professions are influenced by their leadership.† The global corporations are so powerful that it is unimaginable to the ordinary person.† Once they become diverse, global conglomerates who they own becomes very muddy. Their streams of influence become muddy as well - but they are very pointed with purpose.

All that is to say that journalism today is so instant that the competition for a "scoop" is vicious.† Thus, attributions are not as tight as they once were and some reporters and their bosses are too quick to run with a story even if not fully vetted.† That applies to all media regardless of political persuasion and to all reporters who have bosses and ratings to please.

At least CNN took constructive action.† Many news media (Breitbard as an example) don't bother to care whether what is reported is vetted or not and when their words are proven false, they don't retract them.† This is typical of many blogs, and news formats that appeal to a target segment of the population.† Their goal is to get the information circulating that they want the public to believe - if enough people see it and repost it, it will be perceived as truth.† Even when proven false, the original misinformation continues to be repeated and sworn to as gospel.

I still have faith in the basic shoe leather reporter out there attempting to gather on site information and report it back to the public as facts.† They work for many news organizations and/or operate free-lance and they work hard.† Many are still committed to the best truth they can garner in today's world and deserve the thanks of the people they serve with their information gathering.† They also deserve respect just as any professional deserves respect.

If we disregard all news media as "fake news" as our President chooses, then we leave open the door for state supplied singular sourced information whereby we don't get the opportunity to do our own sifting.† We owe it to ourselves, however, to attempt tracing the ownership to discover the bias and then take it into consideration as we read what is printed.† Take it from me, what the writer writes is often completely changed by editors.†

Just because anyone can blog and news is instant from everyone's cell phone and drones flying overhead does not mean we should ignore all news as fake.† We look, listen, use our own research and think about what we read, see and hear knowing all sources bear questioning, but it seems to me if I see the President giving a talk and read his tweets, I can believe my own eyes and ears.† On the otherhand, when I see a meme on Facebook, I can be pretty certain inaccuracies may be part of that meme whether I agree with it or not.

We each draw to us the information that makes our beliefs right.† It's human nature. We need to fight that nature and seek out opposing points of view and friends who see the world differently. We need to step out of our little world of specialized info sources and recognize our points of view need challenges.
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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:29 am

I still regard CNN as a reliable news source.††
After all, anyone can make a mistake.† At least, they admitted †
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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:40 am

Agree, Alice.† I am inclined to believe CNN International.† What they report can be compared to other European sources.† As DK mentioned, what reporters write is subject to editing.† I experienced this in Beirut when I was associated with the media for several days.† Free-Lance reporters were better sources; however they still had to sell their story to some media and often were asked to adjust their stories if they wanted them published.† Politics played a role then as they do now.† Dick Stodghill would have much to say about current reporting.† I sure miss him.
I prefer Live reporting.† It doesnít require someone else to interpret what one hears or sees nor is it subject to editing.† If the story is filmed before being broadcast, then it is subject to editing.† I applaud any entity willing to admit a mistake.† IMV, it adds credibility to the source.†
Watching Trumpís visit to Poland is revealing.† Bus loads of people were brought in to show him a big welcome.† That is something Poland did in the past when they were controlled by the Soviet Union.† Whenever a politician arrived, they made sure he was given a big welcome and bussed in people for the event. †I suspect Trump will talk about his big reception.† Live TV showed him being snubbed by the Polish Presidentís wife.† She walked past him and went directly to Melania ignoring Trumpís hand.† Comments he made in his speech regarding Russiaís influence on US Elections, blaming Obama and the CIA for not taking action, was an attack on the Intelligence services of America.† The backlash has already begun.
The G20 conference will be interesting when Trump meets Putin.† I think that Putin will be well prepared for the meeting while Iím guessing that Trump will try to wing it.† I believe that Trump is sick and requires medical attention.† Some claim he is suffering from Dementia, likely inherited from his father.† Fortunately, the government has made changes in Trumpís authorization to use the nuclear codes, requiring prior congressional approval. Thatís a relief.
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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:08 pm

I viewed the handshake incident. Quite amusing that the Polish President's wife brushed her husband's hand aside as she pushed past him to offer her hand to Melania, instead of waiting for her husband to introduce her to the US President. Had Trump done the same, the press would have said how rude he was.


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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:11 pm

From twitter:




[url=https://mobile.twitter.com/V_of_Europe]

Voice of Europe†@V_of_Europe
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Probably the best American speech on European soil ever. #Trump #Poland



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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:51 pm

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†††††††††††††††††††† I guess the left media and left politicians won't give up !
††††††† I don't believe the Russians had their hands in anything in this
††††††††country.. To me I see a nasty civil war coming between the right
††††††† wing and the left wing, I pray not the last one we had in 1860
††††††† was horrible....

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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:33 pm

Politics is a nasty business, Joe.

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PostSubject: Re: TRUMP?   Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:40 pm

Politics is what it is because the voters allow it to be so.† If we were engaged in every election, from the school board on up, and fought to keep campaigns short, quiet and factual - well, it could start a new wave.† Of course it won't happen as it takes a particular type of personality to enter politics in the first place.
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