| Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us | |
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+7Don Stephens Abe F. March cjt alj LC dkchristi dtpollard 11 posters |
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dtpollard Four Star Member
Number of posts : 636 Registration date : 2008-06-08
| Subject: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:08 am | |
| The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 exposed to the world the limits of man, with all of his advanced technology, to be in control of his destiny. The very reality that a large, technologically advanced and electronic communications laden aircraft could seemingly vanish from the face of the earth is sobering. Many of us probably assumed that pilots were in constant contact with air traffic control or some automated tracking system was on at all times that could not be deactivated by someone on board, but it seems that is not true. In a world build around getting instant answers, it’s a shock for people to discover we don’t have it all under control. http://pollardpost.blogspot.com/2014/03/why-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:51 am | |
| Anyone who thought we did was in a fog. As for airplanes, many don't even have GPS comparable to a cheap cell phone.
In reality, we can just go about our daily lives with intelligence and caution, attempting to plan and hope for the future. The future however, is uncertain from every point of view. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:50 am | |
| http://www.aol.com/article/2014/03/16/3-pieces-of-evidence-point-to-jets-takeover/20850854/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D454350
It was a hijacking -who is surprised by this?
I think this hasn't gotten more play because we're going to find out that lax ID controls facilitated it. How else did up to four people get aboard with stolen passports? This goes against the current narrative of crying "racist!" when asking for IDs, though.
Other countries' media are covering this far more comprehensively than the shit media here in the US (e.g., CNN, MSNBC). Here we're hardly hearing anything about it, or the Ukraine. Kim Kardashian is more important, and the Oscars. Oprah's purse got more coverage here. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:22 pm | |
| CNN and msnbc have both been giving the story extensive coverage, including this information concerningthe possibility of a hijacking. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:47 pm | |
| Repeating "there is no hard data and lots of confusion" over and over is not comprehensive coverage. I agree that they've repeated the same few things "extensively." |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:46 pm | |
| Everything mentioned in the link you posted has been part of the msnbc and CNN coverage. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:24 pm | |
| Recently, yes. The link I posted was a mainstream site (AOL/HuffPost), too. Alternative sites have been covering this earlier. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:51 pm | |
| Check out the three Conan O'Brian vids here about scripted newscasts. Pretty funny, or not.
http://chycho.blogspot.ca/2014/01/its-not-just-mainstream-media-that-is.html |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:03 pm | |
| Jon Corzine's son just killed himself. So we're told. This is on top of eight other high profile banker suicides. One who apparently killed himself by shooting himself multiple times in the head. Have you read much of it? Do you think it might be newsworthy? I've seen lots of stuff about Lady Gaga recently, tho, maybe that's what I'm supposed to be interested in?
http://intellihub.com/8th-international-banker-die-month-jumps-building-china/ |
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cjt Two Star Member
Number of posts : 51 Registration date : 2013-11-08 Age : 55 Location : Boston, MA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:45 pm | |
| I think Malaysia has bungled the whole investigation. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:25 pm | |
| As usual, speculation is rampant. It was a Boeing 777 aircraft. A large order for Boeing aircraft was cancelled due to the NSA spying activity where they implant spying devices in the aircraft. I'm wondering if this aircraft was infected with such devices and if NSA has been contacted for information. The mystery surrounding this incident is news worthy. Seems everyone wants to know what happened. I don't buy the highjacking theory. Highjacking is akin to other terrorist activity and those responsible want to take credit. I'm of the opinion that the plane landed somewhere safely. If it had crashed, there would be debris or other evidence. What about the signal from the black box? |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:46 pm | |
| Malaysia police have intensified their investigation of the pilots of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 amid suspicion that foul play was involved in the jet’s disappearance.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304017604579443232753452924?mod=e2fb
"Both men came under greater scrutiny after Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Saturday that he believed that Flight 370 disappeared March 8 due to "deliberate action" that changed the aircraft's course and disabled two separate communications systems in an attempt to mask its location.
Intelligence agencies haven't connected any of the pilots on the flight to known terrorist groups, but some senior U.S. officials believe the plane may have been taken as part of a "dry run" for a future terrorist attack, testing the ability to take a plane and hide it from radar and satellites." |
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Don Stephens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1355 Registration date : 2008-01-25 Age : 85 Location : Wherever my hat's hanging today!
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:13 am | |
| The plane was sucked into outer space by aliens. The passengers will be experimented on and then eaten.
Does this qualify me as a newscaster? Isn’t my guess as good as theirs? Nobody said the news report has to be right, just first and sensational!!!! |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:15 am | |
| The Today Show compared it to the television series "Lost" - so much for news from that show.
In my humble opinion, it's another example of multiple errors and many people are scrambling in the background to be sure the fault doesn't fall on them or that the praise is theirs.
Those of us who value each human life find this a heinous event of sorrow and anxiety. It touches our fear core that recognizes our powerless though we pretend to be in control - in fact chastise those who do not "take control" of their lives.
Other people in this world have different values for human life. Some see an idea or belief or their own crazy visions as central and the only consideration. Other human lives, often including their own, have no value.
I would rather not speculate in the absence of concrete, exposed evidence. My hope for the families of the passengers is that whatever situation is finally revealed they will find peace either in the reunion with loved ones or in the closure that certainty brings.
I also think this will shine the light on our blind faith in airline safety and the need for better tracking of aircraft. I'm not sure if funding is an issue here, either by the governments or by the airlines; but there seems to be a gap compared to the advanced technology in the electronics arena. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:45 am | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
- I'm of the opinion that the plane landed somewhere safely. If it had crashed, there would be debris or other evidence. What about the signal from the black box?
I agree. I hope the passengers are being treated nicely. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:49 am | |
| - cjt wrote:
- I think Malaysia has bungled the whole investigation.
We agree! |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:49 pm | |
| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582595/Boeing-777-hijackers-plunged-5-000ft-used-low-altitude-terrain-masking-manoeuvre-practised-fighter-jets-avoid-radar-detection.html
"Claims today that the missing Malaysian Airlines jet dropped to an altitude of 5,000ft to avoid radar lends credibility to reports by villagers that they saw bright lights and loud noises at about the time the aircraft is thought to have made a 'U-turn'.
Investigators told a Malaysian newspaper that the Boeing 777 had dropped to a lower altitude to avoid ground radar, using the surrounding terrain as a sonar barrier.
This type of flying is considered to be dangerous and risky, because it places tremendous pressure on the frame of the aircraft - and flying low at night without radar assistance could lead to the plane crashing into trees or mountains." |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:08 pm | |
| I just saw where the tv series "Lost" is celebrating its 10 anniversary. In spite of my dig at the Today show, the similarities are uncanny. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:45 pm | |
| No they aren't, "Lost" is a TV show, and the Today show hosts comparing it to this just show what insipid gossips they are. Which is no surprise, Today isn't a news show, even though it pretends it is. I'm with Rush on how all our media is covering this.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/17/rush-limbaugh-mocks-absurd-media-coverage-of-missing-malaysian-flight-audio/ |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:46 pm | |
| The Today Show compared it to the television series "Lost" - so much for news from that show.
In my humble opinion, it's another example of multiple errors and many people are scrambling in the background to be sure the fault doesn't fall on them or that the praise is theirs.
Those of us who value each human life find this a heinous event of sorrow and anxiety. It touches our fear core that recognizes our powerless though we pretend to be in control - in fact chastise those who do not "take control" of their lives.
Other people in this world have different values for human life. Some see an idea or belief or their own crazy visions as central and the only consideration. Other human lives, often including their own, have no value.
I would rather not speculate in the absence of concrete, exposed evidence. My hope for the families of the passengers is that whatever situation is finally revealed they will find peace either in the reunion with loved ones or in the closure that certainty brings.
I also think this will shine the light on our blind faith in airline safety and the need for better tracking of aircraft. I'm not sure if funding is an issue here, either by the governments or by the airlines; but there seems to be a gap compared to the advanced technology in the electronics arena.
There are many television and movie scripts that are similar to real life or duplicate real life. That does not in any way demean the heinous nature of this recent Malaysian Airline disaster. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:57 pm | |
| 3/17/2014 Many big shots in our govt. say they think it was kidnapped to be used later for some horrible act, who knows what happened , the only one with that answer is God ? Oh yes if many passengers had cellphone why didn't anyone of them call someone they knew and let them know what was going on ? Aliens ? Kidnapping ? In The Ocean? I'm afraid we may never know, there are many planes since the 1940's to the 1960's that have simply vanished and no one has found them including the crews.... Joe.... |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:48 am | |
| Events like these show that technology is not the answer to everything. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:58 pm | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
- Events like these show that technology is not the answer to everything.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:06 pm | |
| 3/18/2014 I'm afraid this plane will never be found, it's been eleven days. I heard on the radio that if the plane went to five thousand feet, the oxygen level would be bad, everyone would pass out and slowly die. I'm sorry for these passengers and their families, It's stranger than fiction? If it crashed in the ocean it would break up, if it crashed on land the plane would be scattered all over. I can't see how a large plane could be hidden? I wonder if any of the passengers had a cellphone? This is a case for Sherlock Holmes. Joe..... |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Why Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Disappearance Frightens Us Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:11 pm | |
| It frightens us because it cannot be explained with logical reasoning. Like DT concluded in his OP: It is beyond our control. |
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