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10/12/20132


                      Well everyone this is as far as I've got in writing, my brain is in
                      la la land ! Here's what I have done so far, what do you think ?

                     " It was a misty day, it was May 12, 2020, the bells of St. Peters Square
                       rang loudly almost a sorrowful ring, something happened at the Vatican.
                       Don Giovanni stood silent in the square looking towards the Vatican, he
                       kneeled down and made a sign of the cross and whispered: " Oh holy
                       Mother, please protect our Pope, Pope Stephen." Then he ran towards the
                       vatican to see what happened, he came upon hundreds of people who raced
                        to the square when they heard the bells...........

                                                             Cheers...Joe...THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
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10/11/2013

                         I'm still drawing a blank !!!!

                            Cheers..Joe..THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
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                      Well everyone this is as far as I've got in writing, my brain is in
                      la la land ! Here's what I have done so far, what do you think ?

                     " It was a misty day, it was May 12, 2020, the bells of St. Peters Square
                       rang loudly almost a sorrowful ring, something happened at the Vatican.
                       Don Giovanni stood silent in the square looking towards the Vatican, he
                       kneeled down and made a sign of the cross and whispered: " Oh holy
                       Mother, please protect our Pope, Pope Stephen." Then he ran towards the
                       vatican to see what happened, he came upon hundreds of people who raced
                        to the square when they heard the bells...........

                                                             Cheers...Joe...THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
I would say he knelt down.
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                     Alice..

                               Thank you ! I changed it...Still trying to get the brain to
                         go forward...I know the ending of the book, it's the first 6
                         chapters that are hard, I even have the cover of the book..

                                                                     Cheers..Joe..THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
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Keep at it.
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10/12/2013

                      Alice...

                                I'm trying ! I need Shelagh's brains in my head..

                                               Cheers..Joe..Very Happy
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LOL! You won't want to go there, Joe! it's a scary place. affraid 
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                            You scary, Never !!.,.......cat  A Pussycat...

                                    Cheers......Joe...Very Happy
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Joe, I highly recommend Mark Davie Gerson's Voice of the Muse and Writer's Block Unblocked.  I first learned of this author from our own Malcolm Campbell, and have found all of his books to be helpful and inspirational
http://www.markdavidgerson.com/writers.html


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                   Ann..

                           Thanks I'm going to check this out, I saved it...

                                           Cheers..Joe..Very Happy
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                   Shelagh..

                                 This was too funny for me ! I never laughed so hard..

                                                          Cheers...Joe...Very Happy
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For me, Joe, I have to be alone, have four vodka and grapefruit, and then, maybe then, my mind will unwind a story.  Sometimes I write the story in my sleep but never put it onto paper.  I am lazy that way.  I wish you luck.  To me, writing a story is almost transendental...I have to be on a completely other plane.  I used to be able to fly in my transendental state, but, no more.  I am anchored by the worldlyness of my life. 

Your mind is a fluid thing.  If you can remember that and not be controled by the static-ness of your every day life, well, there you go.  Off into the beauty of your own imagination.  That is the place you want to be.   Let it all go.....drink a couple of glasses of wine...I believe in the positive effects of alcohol.  Most of the great authors of old were taking something to relax their minds....opium was the choice of lots of them, cocaine was Sir Author's, and many took to the bottle.  Of course, they did not have electricity.  Those shadows in the room have inspired many a good book.  I believe you have it with in you to blab it out. Turn out the light and get a little drunk, the write, write, write.  In the morning, read what your freed mind has put upon the paper and edit.
Myy best love to you, Joe. 
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10/12/2013

                          Betty..

                                 Many times I can re-read what I wrote and then it's like watching
                         a movie I start to see what I want to write, I know it sounds weird, I've
                         told people this and I get strange looks, I call it my minds eyes..

                                                              Cheers..Joe...Very Happy
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Here is one of Mark David's meditations, Joe. Give it a try:

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Dear Joe, Those are the eyes that see in the dark of the night...I believe in them.  The eye that sees the story you are writng before you can find the words to put down.  Pay attention to those night time words.  sometimes they are the real expressions that tell the story under the story you are writing. 

It is when I am not trying to think of something to write down that I can find the best story in my mind.  It is too bad that I cannot just plug my mind into a writing machine that puts it all down. 

It has always been that way with me. 
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Exercise. When I swim or jog, the ideas come back.
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                     Sometimes I find if I go for a walk to see nature, where it's quiet, no
                     human beings, no noise, then maybe just maybe the brain will flow
                     like a river..................I can't go near the mountains or trails I just
                    found out the morons are hunting, dangerous for me...

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Why, do you have antlers? lol
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joefrank wrote:
10/12/20132


                      Well everyone this is as far as I've got in writing, my brain is in
                      la la land ! Here's what I have done so far, what do you think ?

                     " It was a misty day, it was May 12, 2020, the bells of St. Peters Square
                       rang loudly almost a sorrowful ring, something happened at the Vatican.
                       Don Giovanni stood silent in the square looking towards the Vatican, he
                       kneeled down and made a sign of the cross and whispered: " Oh holy
                       Mother, please protect our Pope, Pope Stephen." Then he ran towards the
                       vatican to see what happened, he came upon hundreds of people who raced
                        to the square when they heard the bells...........

                                                             Cheers...Joe...THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
I think we all do that Joe.
I work a complete book in scenes…just like they do in the movies. This way I can jump around from scene to scene. If I don’t like a scene, I put a big red mark on it for rewrite, and go on. Other times I find a scene is in the wrong place, or even the wrong book. I never throw anything away…what may be wrong for one book, I may use in a different book.

On days I just can’t write with a free flow, I do rewrite stuff on scenes.

Say what you posted you didn’t like, or felt it could be better…here is what I do.

1) I make it shorter.

2) I don’t give the reader all the information about what is going on…I want them to read the next page.

3) I take out every word that does not help the story.

Yeah your right…just the basic stuff we all use. Here is an example using what you posted: (this is not to say what you did is bad, I’m just using it as an example.)

 


" It was a misty day, it was May 12, 2020, the bells of St. Peters Square
rang loudly almost a sorrowful ring, something happened at the Vatican.
Don Giovanni stood silent in the square looking towards the Vatican, he
kneeled down and made a sign of the cross and whispered: " Oh holy
Mother, please protect our Pope, Pope Stephen." Then he ran towards the
vatican to see what happened, he came upon hundreds of people who raced
to the square when they heard the bells........…”

Somewhere a kid, or an old man was pulling on a rope of one of the two million bells in Rome. Don Giovanni drew a cross in the clods above the Vatican. Foreigners had left the square looking like a garbage dump. Something was wrong…people were starting to kneel, and cry out to Mary.

 

Joe, I’m not suggesting you change your writing, but change the order in which you write.

When you can't write, edit. When you can’t do either…be Italian. Drink some chilled wine, listen to some music, have a little pasta, and yes, watch the girls go by.



I keep a picture of Shelagh on hand when I have to break out the vino..
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Dom has some good points, Joe. There is an effective software program that helps keep track of scenes and helps you to stay organized, and it's free.

http://www.spacejock.com/yWriter.html

Check it out here.
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                           Domenic...

                                          I get the idea, keep them in suspense but don't give away
             too much ! It's funny I always know the ending, the middle and the jkt cover I
             always create in the beginning so I know it's in my head. I like the Italian idea
             drink some wine, relax, download a great photo for inspiration " Shelagh" God
             knows she's an inspiration to many people including me....Thanks..Myabe some
             you know........X

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alj wrote:
Dom has some good points, Joe. There is an effective software program that helps keep track of scenes and helps you to stay organized, and it's free.

http://www.spacejock.com/yWriter.html

Check it out here.

http://www.spacejock.com/yWriter.html

Thanks alj, I can use that. More times than not, I have to read everything just to find a scene if I have not worked on a story for a few weeks.
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                           Domenic...

                                          I get the idea, keep them in suspense but don't give away
             too much ! It's funny I always know the ending, the middle and the jkt cover I
             always create in the beginning so I know it's in my head. I like the Italian idea
             drink some wine, relax, download a great photo for inspiration " Shelagh" God
             knows she's an inspiration to many people including me....Thanks..Myabe some
             you know........X

                                                               Cheers..Joe..THIS IS AS FAR AS I GOT IN WRITING ? FRUSTRATING !! 925501
Joe...I was not thinking of Shelagh in that way. I was thinking more like a sailor who has been at sea for six months.
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                  I didn't mean that , I meant she inspires many people with her knowledge
                  and great brain......

                                                           Cheers...Joe...Very Happy
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