MEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

10/23/2012

How come I always hear women screaming reproductive rights,

I have yet to hear any man yell reproductive rights, after all we

do have it too , without us , there would be no babies and yes

no fun ........

Cheers..Joe....Modern man 2012...

No one is trying to pass legislation to limit men's control over their own health care decisions - they are between a man and his physician. No legislation is directed specifically to men's reproductive health care needs.

Men's insurance premiums are already less than women's.

Women don't need to say anything about reproductive rights until men attack them. When Senators say that women who are raped don't get pregnant - in a legitimate rape - because their body produces something to stop a pregnancy - so refusing a raped woman an abortion won't be necessary - that's when women scream at the ignorance.

When another political figure says "some women get raped easier than others' thaoftt's when women scream at ignorance.

When republican states legislate that women cannot make their own health choices about their female health issues, including reproduction issues, then they scream foul.

When women are once again thrown back to the 1950's when abortion required a coat hanger and a run across some border often ending in death or inability to ever have children again because of legislation that is backward - that's when they start screaming.

When republican legislatures stay away from demeaning women and concentrate on education, infrastructure and food insecurity then women won't be screaming about the loss of the rights to make their own health care decisions about their own bodies.

Not true. Men and their doctors are not allowed to make decisions about pain medications, steroids, and human growth hormones without having to deal with regulations. We can't get medical marijuana in most places. Doctor-assisted suicide is forbidden. Everyone is strapped in by rules and regulations. It's not exclusive to women.

10/23/2012

Al....



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Cheers..Joe

We we talking reproduction rights. I am sure men have issues with pain and other medical problems. The truth is that men can get drugs to increase their reproductivity as can women, but men cannot get pregnant from rape, and really men cannot reporduce human kind without a women unless in a test tube. No matter how much a man wants to glorify himself, he cannot reproduce himself without a woman unless in a test tube.

This IS a woman issue.

Love,

Betty

However, Al, the subjects you mentioned are equally issues for men and women; men are not specific targets of any legislation. Women are targets.

10/24/2012

As I have said before " Men Have Reproductive Rights !"

Without us women can't have children, their is no fun if

you get my drift....Men unite fight for your reproduction

rights.......

Cheers..Joe....

Joe, you've always had them:

Quote :

E***tions Get Insurance; Why Not the Pill?

By GERALDINE SEALEY
June 19, 2002
Within weeks of hitting the U.S. market in 1998, more than half of Viagra prescriptions received health insurance coverage

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91538#.UIdH42_A9IE

Annie

dkchristi wrote:

No one is trying to pass legislation to limit men's control over their own health care decisions - they are between a man and his physician.

That's what I responded to. It isn't true.

10/24/2012



Men fight, fight now ! We are in a war to save our

reproductive rights....They want to take them away!

Cheers..Joe....

I don't think it is a subject for humor. Reality: The Romney/Ryan ticket proposes to close down Planned Parenthood, an organization that provides low and no cost health screening for women's specific health issues associated with the female reproductive system.

Reality: The Romney/Ryan ticket proposes to repeal the Affordable Care Act. This act provides that women will no longer pay more than men for the same level of health insurance. This act provides that women with pre-existing conditions from their reproductive system will be able to have insurance. This act provides that limits may not be placed on the lifetime coverage. This act provides that refunds for insurance will be provided if the cost of insurance far exceeds the benefit provided. This act provides for no co-pays for pre-screening to prevent diseases for men and women and thus reduce emergency care and costs.

Reality: The Romney/Ryan ticket proposes to forbid all abortions without exception and controls over contraception insurance benefits. Wealthy people will continue to use their resources for whatever medical care they need to eliminate an unwanted pregnancy; less well financed people will suffer as in the 50's when coathangers and unscrupulous doctors butchered women. Pregnancy is a dangerous change to a girl's or woman's body with lifelong health risks and the risk of death. The woman should have the right to determine whether that pregnancy should be kept or discontinued, not legislation forced on them by false "pro-lifers" whose only "pro-life" stance is a woman's pregnancy, not capital punishment, gun control, starving children or elderly in nursing homes dying.

Thus, no similar issues are forced on men. No man is forced to have a vaginal probe to determine whether an abortion is allowed. No man is forced to have a child after being raped. No man is forced to decide between his life and a fetus for the treatment of cancer and other diseases.

Men should not be legislating these personal and critical female issues; these issues should not be part of the political discourse. These are private issues with personal religious connotations and belong with a woman, those in her religious belief and her physician.

10/24/2012

I see women don't understand men's reproductive

rights ! Now I know why their are so many divorces

in this country, women just don't understand men's

reproductive and sexual rights !

Joe..............

10/24/2012

DK....

Your a good sport ! Gootcha !

I wanted to see how far this would go..

Cheers..Joe...

If men want to be honest, they don't limit sex to having children. For most men, the fact that a woman becomes pregnant is an accident of nature. Then there are those who plan when to have children. My daughter and husband are good examples of this. After the first birth where no planning was involved, they planned when they felt it was time for a second child. That decision considered the financial aspects of raising a child. Without birth control, planning is not an option. Therefore I believe that birth control is a benefit to humanity. Those who cannot afford the cost of raising a child and/or health considerations that play a role should not deter them from enjoying sex. The sex drive is strong. In the military, the urge is often controlled by substance placed in food. In the old days, a brothel traveled with the troops. In today's society, that is a no no.

And around and around we go. Where it ends, nobody knows.

dkchristi wrote:

Thus, no similar issues are forced on men. No man is forced to have a vaginal probe to determine whether an abortion is allowed. No man is forced to have a child after being raped. No man is forced to decide between his life and a fetus for the treatment of cancer and other diseases.

No woman in our society is forced to go to war to kill other people and perhaps be killed. Lead poisoning is a health issue. Yet women are permitted to use abortion as a convenient means of birth control. Some people disapprove of that practice.

dkchristi wrote:

Men should not be legislating these personal and critical female issues;

Last time I looked, most legislative bodies include women. You want specific women's rights more equitably represented? Elect more candidates who agree. That's how the system works. There are more women than men. Should be a snap.

I am a woman and do not approve of abortion except under special circumstances --such as rape, incest, life of mother etc. In these cases a morning after pill would do the job.

It is extreme for me to inflict my views on others.

10/24/2012

If you read my last post " DK..." GOTCHA !"

I started this as a joke ....I don't think men really

care about their reproductive rights...Case Closed.

Cheers..Joe...

There are those who consider the morning after pill wrong also. According to a Senator I caught briefly on television, Murdock or something like that, if a woman is raped the child is from God and abortion illegal. Obviously, he hasn't had a daughter tell him she was raped, or a wife, or a mother or any other woman in his life.

I do not believe in abortion either; but I also do not believe in forcing my opinion - and that is what it is, an opinion - on another person who believes differently.

Very well said, Dk, It is more like I meant than what I said.

Thank you also for your able defense on Facebook.
I am tired of arguing with you know who.

10/24/2012

Alice..

I must have missed something on Facebook, Who's

you know who ?

Cheers..Joe...

A, " friend" who is very argumentative. He wears me out calls me names, etc.,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/richard-mourdock-abortion_n_2007482.html

Quote :

WASHINGTON -- Indiana GOP U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock declared Tuesday night he opposes aborting pregnancies conceived in rape because "it is something that God intended to happen."
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"The only exception I have to have an abortion is in the case of the life of the mother," said Mourdock, the Tea Party-backed state treasurer. "I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize life is that gift from God. I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."

God can take the vile things that happen to people and help the victims to come through them and give them the strength to overcome the horror and live successfully, but God never intends for those horrible things to happen, and would never deny the victim the right to choose how to deal with her situation.

One thing I have noticed is that no Republican women who are running for office are stepping up and saying anything at all in the defense of a womans's right to govern her own body. I find that very disturbing. In fact, I think it says something about the entire Republican party.

Just my take.

Love,

Betty

The Republicans sure ain't what they used to be...