WE THE PEOPLE

3/26/2012



We The People...

Cheers..Joe

We the people have lost our minds!

We fight wars forever and don't know when to quit.

NO MORE WARS!

3/26/2012



Alice..

I believe in the Constitution, we The People, For The

People , By The People.....I guess the politicians for get this

we need severe term limits, Congress 1 term, Senate 1 term,

President 1 term ....Then we can put fresh blood in...



Cheers..Joe..

I thing there should be more than term limits. There needs to be a job description that details the accomplishments required and measures them objectively. Poor performing representatives get 30 day notices just like in the real world to shape up or ship out.

I believe the President needs two terms to accomplish anything meaningful. However, if he or she is not meeting performance requirements, he or she will not be elected to a second term if there are better alternatives. .

Lobbyists need to be stopped. PACs need to be stopped. A specific, limited amount of funds expenditure are allowed for each candidate. All television and radio spots are PSA's and equal for each party.

Instead of relying on lobbyists for funding and research, Congressional research staffs need to be increased.

Congressmen need to spend a specific number of hours engaged in Congressional accomplishments and a specific number of hours with their home constituency and have a specific travel budget that they need to prioritize.

There's more. Limiting terms is not enough.

3/26/2012

Once I saw an inteview with a person in England, I think

2008 , he said their elections are 3 months, limited money

that's it..The Americans spend too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and it takes a year to run..Things must change and soon..



Cheers..Joe..

3/29/2012

Here's another great one..

Cheers..Joe..

joefrank wrote:

3/29/2012

"We really must get some pigeons you know, this annual event is costing us a shed load of soldiers!"

I agree with what DK said. A President, a good one, needs more time to do what needs to be done. The first year is somewhat wasted while learning the job and that includes developing a thick skin. Important issues, like the Health Care issue, is not something that can be accomplished quickly. With perseverence, it can happen. What is most difficult to accept is that those who need the government's help most, are vulnerable to politically orchestrated opposing views that tell them they don't want or need help. Of course when we have a bad President as with GWB, one term is too long, and then to see him elected for a second term is incomprehensible.
We do need a third party. We also need control on the money spent on political promotion. Buying a position eliminates those who are better qualified and have "We the People" as their agenda. "We the Rich" are in control.

Congress should not be able to pass any laws that do not effect them in the same way it effects the people!!!!

They can vote against a cost of living raise for SS yet vote themselves a pay raise...

They can change the rules for SS anyway they want, because they don't participate, they have a total retirement package after one term...

They can vote any healthcare plan they want because it doesn't effect them, they have total healthcare for life...

How do we get the rules changed when they are the ones making the rules????

If the President and the Representatives aren't getting it right, WE have to limit their terms...WE have to vote them out!!!!

We just had a primary in my area, less than 10% of registered voters turned out to vote, but I'm willing to bet 90% of the registered voters are complaining about something! It's disgusting! It's not what I thought I shed blood to defend!

JMHO

I am so sorry Don. I don't think my Uncles would like the way things are now either.

I understand your comments, Don. What do our servicemen fight for? I believe it is for the safety and security of loved ones; the opportunity to have a home, an education, a career and a comfortable retirement while watching children have their opportunities.

I believe it has become twisted by the media, money, mega-corporations of international scope, and career politicians.

I agree with much of what you said. Those who are comfortable, have great health care benefits, retirement wealth, good careers, etc. find their way to the polls to protect what they have.

Those without, they are led to the slaughter by those with. It's pitiful.

3/28/2012

Don....

The painting I put up is a great reminder what

we struggled for in 1776...





Cheers..Joe..

I the Person, want an end to frivolous, unpaid wars!

I'm hesitant to reach back into our history. We come from violence and greed. Of course, it is not all of us; but the seeds are there and right now have flourished. We also come from freedom snuffing right wing religious doctrines. They are flourishing as well. In between are the majority of the people who just want a roof, a meal, an education, a job and a family that loves them and has opportunities to live a quality life. Everything else is so much sound and fury to benefit the few, the greedy, the violent, the judgmental and the ugly.

I forgot to add that those without the power, pay. They pay with the death of their loved ones, the lack of medical care, the housing bust, the high costs and no way to hide their income overseas and not pay taxes. So, we pay. We fill the jails, the unemployment lines, the streets, the graveyards.

DK,

Come now--we aren't dead yet we are still complaining.

3/28/2012

Alice..







Cheers..Joe...

Don said, "Congress should not be able to pass any laws that do not effect them in the same way it effects the people!!!!"

I think that would solve many problems. How can our representatives represent our concerns unless they are affected by the decisions they make?

3/29/2012

Abe...

" FIRE THEM ! <,TAKE AWAY THEIR BENEFITS !"



Cheers..Joe...

Anyone disgracing their office should be removed without benefits.

Purportedly, the elections are the evaluation of their performance: re-elected equals good performance.

Some contracts in the real world work that way, except the contracts state clearly what is expected and how their performance will be measured and when.

That's how my government contracts worked: I had to list what I planned to accomplish, how much each goal would cost, how the performance would be measured and the consequences of non-performance. It was still an imperfect system because many people know how to cheat with statistics, cream for the high performers, etc. Where are the ethics that the Christian right should stand for? Isn't that what religious practice teaches at its core - to live an ethical life?

When money becomes God, ethics don't matter.

Abe F. March wrote:

When money becomes God, ethics don't matter.

True and very sad. We now side with the rich people. Don't dare get rid of oil subsidies. Gas prices are high, oil profits are up. Why are we subsidizing them?

I heard Simpson-Bowles on Charlie Rose last night and they were exceptional. One is a major Democrat from the Clinton years, the other a major Republican former Senator.

They confirmed that the problem with the Congress is that those in office only care about becoming re-elected and that the people need to vote in new members who are able to compromise across party lines for the good of the country.

They headed up the commission that was bi-partisan and had sound proposals to end the deficit and put the country on a sound fiscal position. However, the Republican vow to not provide any changes to taxes that could be interpreted as an increase to their special interests made the proposal impossible to implement yet. Also, the Republican vow to destroy the President Obama administration made anything supported by the President certain for non-support by Republicans. Therefore, nothing will get done between now and the election because Grover Norquist is the most powerful man in the country (the man Republicans signed on with to not increase taxes to the wealthy instead of representing their constitutents).

The power of special interest groups and lobbyists is also destroying the country, added to by the Supreme Court allowing the humungous PAC financing of campaigns. According to these two very savvy people, the next President might not be elected by the people but rather chosen by who gets the most money from the PAC's.

Regardless of who is President, no positive legislation to end the deficit or to create the needed infrastructure, jobs, education reform, social programs self-sustaining adjustments, etc. will come forth because the legislators only pass bill to benefit their continued careers supported by special interests, not the interests of the majority of the ordinary citizens. Wealth and special interests control the country and will take it to losing its competitiveness in a global economy, reducing the U.S. to a second class status.

Only through compromise that requires dedicated representatives who put the country ahead of their party will the current deadlock on needed legislation be broken. The vitriol and animosity currently encouraged in the nation fuels the divisions and zero' s in on the wrong messages. It encourages divisions where cooperation is a requirement of a democracy. It plays to the fears of the people instead of rising to their hopes and dreams.

Sick , sick and not the way it was intended. Our representatives need to represent what we want even if it is not what they want.

We know they want to destroy President Obama. We want food, jobs, health care and an end to war. Also to live within our means.

Not raising taxes is a ridiculous goal.