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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:57 pm | |
| 10/19/2013 It amazes me how politicians have big dreams, it seems the one Arnold has will never happen.....Read about his big dream... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/19/arnold-schwarzenegger-2016_n_4128022.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D393747 Cheers..Joe... |
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HaroldLee Three Star Member
Number of posts : 77 Registration date : 2013-05-14
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:02 pm | |
| The Constitution is pretty clear on the requirements to be President. "Changing the rules" is an involved process. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:19 pm | |
| 10/19/2013 The public would never allow any change to the Constitution so anyone not born in this country can be President, that includes Ted Cruz who was born in Canada...Time for Arnold to "RETIRE". Cheers..Joe.. |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:18 pm | |
| Ted Cruz can be President. He was born in Canada to his mother, a US citizen, which makes him a US citizen.
I am in favor of changing the Constitution so someone who has been a naturalized citizen for twenty years can be President. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:29 pm | |
| 10/19/2013
I can guess you must be a moron, no Cruz cannot be president !! What planet do you live on ? And the constitution will not be changed, so sorry Arnold , you and who ever has this idiotic idea crawl back under a rock......
Cheers..Joe.. |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:34 pm | |
| Ted Cruz CAN be President. His mother was an American citizen when he was born, so yes he can be President.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/aug/20/ted-cruz-born-canada-eligible-run-president/ |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:35 pm | |
| Also,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/supporters-push-for-ted-cruz-for-president/ |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:40 pm | |
| 10/19/2013
Evidently your not an American , you don't know our strong laws, final word Idiot from Calif. and ther other idiot from Texas cannot be President !! There's a reason for our laws , we don't want foreigners ruling this country, period !!!
Cheers..Joe |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:42 pm | |
| (sigh) |
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Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:22 am | |
| "The phrase comes from the English common law, which defined the term as including anyone who, by natural law, owed duties to, and was protected by, the monarch. The sovereign expected obedience from anyone born in the country, other than the child of a foreign diplomat or an enemy soldier. So children born in England, even to parents who were not English themselves, were natural born subjects. As such they were obligated to pay taxes, say, or perform military service, and they had the rights of English people."
Doesn't this suggest that Ted Cruz, born to non-Canadian parents, is a natural born Canadian and a "subject" of the English monarchy?
Canadian citizens are not actual "subjects" of the UK monarch, and have not been since the Citizenship Act of 1947. Citizens of the UK are also no longer "subjects" of the monarch; they are citizens of the UK. Which makes Ted Cruz a citizen of Canada and the Commonwealth.
"The natural-born citizen requirement was put into the Constitution, according to the congressional report, to ward against aristocracy coming to America and setting up a new kingdom."
In other words, to stop anyone with allegiance to the Head of the Commonwealth, such as a Canadian, running for the office of President of the USA.
You can only be born once. The sovereign claims the loyalty of every member born on Commonwealth ground. Natural born citizens are those born in the country of the birth, irrespective of the nationality of their parents. If you are born in Canada, you're a Canadian. Whatever nationality you take after your birth has to be applied for. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:43 am | |
| Thank God!! He's not at Texan |
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Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:25 am | |
| No, he's almost a Brit. If his mother had wanted to save him from the clutches of the Motherland (which is why the Brits were pushed above the 49th parallel and allowed to remain under British rule), she should have crossed back over the border before she gave birth. To this day, anyone born north of the 49th parallel is a member of the Commonwealth. The Queen personifies the state and is the personal symbol of allegiance, unity and authority for all Canadians. Legislators, ministers, public services and members of the military and police all swear allegiance to The Queen. It is for this reason that all new Canadian citizens swear allegiance to The Queen of Canada.
Once you have sworn allegiance to the British Crown, the American constitution declares that you cannot become President of the United States of America. Until Congress changes the constitution, if you are born in a Commonwealth country that swears allegiance to the Crown, you can forget about running for president. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:53 am | |
| Ted Cruz will likely try to change things to his advantage. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:04 am | |
| 10/20/2013 No the idiot Arnold if you read the article wants to change the law! It won't happen, he should crawl under a rock.... Cheers..Joe.. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:54 am | |
| Laws can be changed, but I don't see either Schwarzenegger or Cruz as having the mass appeal that would be required to change this one. As Shelagh pointed out, the concept is pretty well entrenced. It would take something akin to a second coming of Christ - a candidate who had the complete support and approval of the entire US citizenry. Neither of these men has that kind of charisma. Cruz is senator because Texas Democrats were unable to come up with a viable opponent. Give the Castro brothers another couple of years, They were both born here. They are highly qualified individuals who have that leadership quality. Someone on a news channel pointed out that today, it would not be possible for a president to appoint his brother as Secretary of State. At the moment? True, but give these twin brothers a little time. - Quote :
- No need to adjust your television set; you were not seeing double. The unusual political rising-star story that has beguiled Texas for the past decade went national Tuesday night, when Joaquin took the stage to introduce Julián before his prime-time speech. (Text of Julián Castro’s keynote address)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/julian-castros-twin-brother-joaquin-rising-stars-have-democrats-seeing-double/2012/09/04/1e803a9a-f6df-11e1-8398-0327ab83ab91_blog.html
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:58 am | |
| They have charisma for sure. Jack Kennedy was President and his brother was Attorney General - that was pretty tight. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:01 am | |
| 10/20/2013 I guess their related to Fidel Castro ? They sound very far leftist, no good for this country.... Cheers..Joe... |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:07 am | |
| Nope, they are just a couple of San Antonio boys whose mother was an activist for Mexican-American rights. They are as "American" as you and me. They are democrats. Schwarzenegger and Cruz are both Rebublicans and right-wingers. Are you sure which side you are really on? |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:13 am | |
| 10/20/2013 Sorry! As you said we don't need any left winger democrats ! I will make sure to ad them to my anti Hillary list another leftist! As I've stated before I'm not Republican nor am I Democrat.... Cheers..Joe... |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:24 am | |
| As I said? We don't need democrats/
What happened to your Hillary for president campaign? |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:27 am | |
| Go Green Party! http://www.gp.org/ |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:29 am | |
| Green is good, Ziz, who are the candidates? |
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RetiredName Four Star Member
Number of posts : 859 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Age : 55 Location : The Hub of the Universe
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:31 am | |
| Check their websites for candidates for your region. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:58 am | |
| New Jersey governor Chris Christie has a far better chance for the Republican candidacy. He's much more of a centrist. My democratic son and d-in-law, who live in that state, are both fans.
By 2016, I'm betting, the people will reject this extremist crap and vote for someone who will restore balance and cooperation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S BIG DREAM...DREAM ON DREAMER Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:50 pm | |
| 10/20/2013 Sorry Chris Christi won't get it ! I'm betting on someone younger, handsome and has charisma like John Kennedy....I wonder who that could be ? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Cheers....Joe... |
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