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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:37 am | |
| I've bemoaned this action since it became a reality earlier this year. I wish I hadn't come across it this morning, of all mornings! http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_15436940?source=most_emailed - Quote :
- ...earlier this year, religious conservative members
of the Texas Board of Education decided to push for a revision of this history by downplaying Jefferson's influence in the founding of our nation because the notion of the "separation of church and state" has been traced to him. These religious rightists believe this country was founded as a Christian nation and decided to make their point by revising American history in their public school text books. The effect of this kind of revision of American history would be to celebrate the founding of this country as a religious event rather than the secular event it is.
What makes it worse is the fact that, since Texas buys so many textbooks, the rest of the country is forced to follow along. The textbook companies can't afford to ignore them. Ann |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:47 am | |
| You know, textbooks are always behind anyway. I eagerly await the day when it's all electronic. Like Wikipedia, when a subject is not correct, a knowledgeable soul comes along and corrects it. History. like biblical accounts, is seen through the eyes of those that recorded it and passed down information. New bits and pieces are found all the time.
I have a great, great grandparent who was a hero in the Civil War - for the south. His story has been told in one historical book that documented the history of a prison, not exactly common reading. He was on the "wrong" side to be memorialized in textbooks.
I feel your concern, Ann, but I don't have a lot of faith in the information students receive in school anyway or in the people that deliver it. The best I can say for school systems is that they provide long-term public employment and a place to exercise the mind, a place to hopefully learn how to learn, and a place to learn social systems with peers.
The basics are still the most critical: the need to compute, to read and to communicate. Even those are being major altered by electronic gadgets and the internet. I feel the school system in America (K-12 anyway) needs a major revamp, but the archaic organization, entrenched professionals and uncertain funding schema make it a challenge no one dares to solve.
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:33 am | |
| There's nothing new. I went to elementary school in Virginia in the 40s and 50s. We were not taught much about Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant. We were taught a lot about Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee. |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:02 pm | |
| Don McLeroy and his fellow right-wing nutters have been the subject of discussion in The Chronicle and other places for quite awhile.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1001.blake.html |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:20 pm | |
| - LC wrote:
- Don McLeroy and his fellow right-wing nutters have been the subject of discussion in The Chronicle and other places for quite awhile.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1001.blake.html Yep. When I was still teaching, we couldn't get through adoption time without horror stories on the Gablers' latest. Ann |
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LC Five Star Member
Number of posts : 5044 Registration date : 2009-03-28
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:40 pm | |
| I don't really care, though. Maybe that's what it takes to counter a lot of the left-wing nuttiness that's in textbooks? As long as colleges can make their own decisions, I especially don't care, lol. I [heart] Baylor and Lone Star College, two Texas schools that adopted my own text. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:46 pm | |
| Very frustrating, Ann. It must be difficult to teach under such circumstances. |
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Al Stevens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1727 Registration date : 2010-05-11 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:02 pm | |
| Reminds me of the Scopes monkey trial. And "Inherit the Wind" based on that episode. |
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Carol Troestler Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3827 Registration date : 2008-06-07 Age : 86 Location : Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:07 pm | |
| When I gave my short speech when I got my award last week, I told how professors told us if we graduated with more answers than questions, they had not done their job. We studied evolution and all related subjects. In history we looked at all sides of issues. My three years of German taught me I needed to go there for a long visit.
I have no idea where the text books were published. Classes were filled with discussion and no one had to agree.
To me, that's what education should be, a combination of definite facts and discussion of the facts.
Al, Inherit the Wind was a good production. I saw it and have not forgotten.
Carol
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:46 pm | |
| Carol - do you have pictures from your ceremony? I almost forgot!!! Did you buy an expensive new dress and did you knock them over with your acceptance? What an exciting moment for you and your family.
Sorry for the digression..........K-12 is dependent on school boards. I was in a position as a regional director for five school districts with a grant for all administered by one. The one district was run by a school board made up of the Eagle Forum (I might not have it exactly right) - they almost didn't approve the grant to serve all four other districts too because they said it was training students for government jobs and would be requiring students to have chips behind their ears to continue the programming.......yikes! Those were the leaders of the one district. The grant provided counseling to encourage students to plan a program of study that would let them choose multiple career paths, including vocational and academic professions. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: I can't believe that it's my home state... Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:45 am | |
| Inherit the Wind was written and performed over a half-century ago; the Scopes trial is was based on, another quarter-century before that.
We are a decade into the 21st century, and the situation still exists.
Jean Piaget taught us teachers that children were able to grow from concrete to procedural operations around the age of eleven years, but we still have half a nation of adults who insist on literalizing symbols.
Ann |
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