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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Comparing the US to Germany Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:08 am | |
| Enlightenment is the beginning. I think Bernie Sanders of Vermont had addressed much of what is in the following. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/why-germany-has-it-so-much-better-than-the-us/#.VI_-hhFYCIh.facebook
Change is needed. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:24 pm | |
| I have not read the article. The U.S. can learn from other countries, but Germany is very small with a very different history and different cultural beliefs and traits in its citizens. The U.S. is quite unique in the world. It has to struggle with its own demons for that reason. |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:22 am | |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:18 am | |
| I didn’t write the article. I thought it interesting enough to pass along. When I made this post I thought it may create controversy and deleted it. At least I thought I had deleted it, but it appeared anyway. I agree DK that there are differences in countries and what may work well in one, may not work so well in another without some modification. Just as there are no countries exactly alike, the same can be said for people. We have tried to push our brand of democracy on other countries and found that it didn’t work. With adjustments and with time, it could work. When I read the article, there were several things that got my attention: Working hours, vacation time, healthcare and retirement. Many have come to realize that it is not the quantity, but the quality of what we do that makes a difference. Working long hours does not guarantee more production. Having a vacation from work is also needed. Then there are the security elements of healthcare and retirement. Time for recreation and enough money to spend (a living wage) makes for a healthy work force as well as a healthy economy. There is no perfect person and no perfect country, however some have it more together than others. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:08 am | |
| I would rather take the elements that work in a country and say, "these have merit." I agree that that a balance life is certainly one that provides better quality of living and contributes to good health and around the circle.
Unfortunately, the political forces that are running this country are totally motivated by monitary gain and have little concern for the quality life except for their own extravagance at the expense of others. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:09 am | |
| And I see it getting worse. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:02 pm | |
| Agree DK and that's what makes it so sad. Greed continues to dominate. There is enough money available to provide a better life for all. For many, they will work all hours and give up vacations for money thinking that one day they can set back and enjoy it. Unfortunately, by the time they are in that position, they are too sick to do the things they would have enjoyed doing at an earlier age. Sometimes I'm reminded of the quip: "Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die." The future is now. To enjoy the now and be care-free is the problem. There are always worries that prevent one from enjoying the now and yet even with the restrictions one can find enjoyment in the little things. Nature can provide much enjoyment. There is much to be thankful for if one can only shut out "things". We are programmed to think that possessions bring happiness. Only when you had possesions and lost them do you realize how shallow that is. JMO. Denmark is a good example of a country where people are happy. The reasons were stated previously. It comes down to "What makes you happy?" |
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alj Five Star Member
Number of posts : 9633 Registration date : 2008-12-05 Age : 80 Location : San Antonio
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:29 pm | |
| Wasn't that the study that ranked the US several countries higher than Germany, Abe? http://www.publishedauthors.org/t10818-happiest-country-in-the-world#122818 - alj wrote:
- took the time to download the PDF from the page Abe linked. It is a report on the actual study and included a list of 156 countries, ranked by the studies findings as 0f 2010-2012.
Here are a few beyond those top 10:
11 - Israel 14 - UAE 16 - Mexico 17 - USA 22 - UK 25 - France 26 - Germany 68 - Russia 98 - Lebanon 148 - Syria |
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Don Stephens Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1355 Registration date : 2008-01-25 Age : 85 Location : Wherever my hat's hanging today!
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:58 pm | |
| - Abe F. March wrote:
We have tried to push our brand of democracy on other countries and found that it didn’t work. With adjustments and with time, it could work.
Can anyone think of one country where we have tried to force democracy where it worked? People have to want it for it to work. Hell, it barely works here! |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Comparing the US to Germany Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:39 pm | |
| If we think about it, even the framers' vision was an ideal, not attainable for everyone but for the few. That concept of "the few" has come full circle. |
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