| | Business Etiquette, Part II | |
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slb Four Star Member
Number of posts : 926 Registration date : 2010-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Oskaloosa, Iowa
| Subject: Business Etiquette, Part II Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:07 pm | |
| I discuss online applications this week. http://stephenbrayton.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/business-etiquette-part-ii/ |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Business Etiquette, Part II Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:41 am | |
| Very timely. It's an employer's market and looking for a job is worse than the job itself. I have made application packages for university jobs that rivaled a grant application. I remember several (more than several) years ago applying for 145 related jobs with 25 personal interviews that included long road trips and flights. When I finally was hired, it was related to none of those applications. A friend told a friend and I was hired and then filled out the application.
Recently, I have had zero response to anything I filled out online or put in their "system." It is only through networking and connections have I gained my freelance and consulting opportunities. In my field, they all ask for "transcripts" which is code for seeing how old you (high school and college graduation dates in the 60's and 70's are dead giveaways). How people disguise their age or 30 years experience (meaning expensive to hire) is beyond me with the details required to apply.
I taught people how to apply for jobs and reminded them that the application process is not to hire but rather to eliminate people they do not want to hire and then look at what's left. The key is to say as little as required with none of the info they will use for elimination purposes. Every employer believes they are unique, thus a standard ap does not suit them. How much nicer if one ap could be provided online through career builder that everyone would use. But no, you fill out career building, receive the job list, punch "apply" and it sends you to that employer's online ap. |
| | | slb Four Star Member
Number of posts : 926 Registration date : 2010-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Oskaloosa, Iowa
| Subject: Re: Business Etiquette, Part II Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:01 pm | |
| That's an interesting view that companies eliminate first and look at who's left. I wonder, however, how to make their online system work for me so as not to be in the elimination group. What would cause elimination? Specific words or the manner in which the application is completed? i don't know. |
| | | dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Business Etiquette, Part II Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:49 pm | |
| I interviewed lots of people and reviewed lots of aps in my career. There are definitely key rejection words. However, they differ by industry. Now, the ap software has key words programmed to reject aps if those words show. Of course, the words remain a mystery. |
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