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alice
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PostSubject: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 4:55 pm

Paul Ryan is a godsend. He makes zero sense and maybe folks will wake up before it is too late.
He wants to cut taxes which will drive the deficit even higher and enrich the wealthy more. I love his plan:) I hope everyone hears about it. lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 6:49 pm

If you saw my other post, he is also best buddies and co-author of many pieces of legislation limiting women's rights that were hard won, but particularly as regards rape. Tod Akin made the mistake today of letting it be known that he believes there is a distinction between rape and legitimate rape. For legitimate rape, a woman's body shuts down so she will not get pregnant, according to Tod Akin.

The facts are that 5% of intercourse actions will result in a pregnancy if no prevention is used. that is across the board. Rape is not a sexual act; it is an act of violation, power and assault. It changes forever the life of the man or woman who is so violated. Forever. The memory is almost DNA. No legislator has the right to govern the actions of the woman following such an assault; her options are up to her. Hopefully, there will be appropriate counselors and medical advice to help her meet her needs.

In addition to rape, is the incident of incest. I don't know the percentage; but in my own circle of adult friends, I know that incest is more widespread than a person would believe.

It is time that the Republican Party, the party of small government, get out of the abortion prevention business and into providing appropriate medical care that will assist with the best decision for the victims.

It's time women wake up and stop helping elect representatives who do not care about the needs of women and look to increase the number of female representatives across the nation at all levels of government just to get minimally more representation.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 7:01 pm

Any woman who would call herself a Republican is in need of help.

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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 7:39 pm

As best I can tell it's tied to hating President Obama and to religious beliefs where the man is the head of the household and what he utters is God's truth whether it destroys women or not.

How the gentle and calm President Obama can engender such hate can only be because of the likes of Rush Limbaugh and others like him who make their living from hate mongering and twisting truth into lies that appeal to emotional fears and bigotry. Of course there's the stupid Donald Trump and the birthing bs.

Mostly, I think the women that support republican candidates follow the dictates of their ministers and husbands because of the obsession with stopping a woman from making decisions about her own body.

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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyMon Aug 20, 2012 9:35 pm

8/21/2012

Don't forget the children, read this it turned my stomach

this guy should get 20 yrs on each charge !

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/082112MartinezArraignment

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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 9:35 am

Joe,

It is terrible--wish we could somehow stop the abuse of kids.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 9:41 am

Universal health care and the reorientation that mental health is as critical to a nation's health as diabetes may lead to people seeking help for their rage and issues. One can hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 am

Finding words to describe our current political situation is not easy. I can't even find an icon that will do it. There are a few swear words that would come close, but they would have to be heard, not read.

Perhaps Alice is right. The worse it gets, the better our hope. A bit like reverse psychology.

If nothing else, this election has caused many to think about the issues. Of course that refers to those who still think.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 1:50 pm

People might wake up and see how nuts it all is--Hope so anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 3:17 pm

8/21/2012

I'm glad I'm getting older, this country is topsy

turvey , I can't wait for all this to be over !

Cheers.....Joe....Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 4:56 pm

Joe,

Don't give up--people are waking up. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 7:27 pm

I am not an expert on William James - at all - but lately I have come across references to some of his ideas. I even put some of them into Daniel Redstone's head.

The one I ran across a few minutes ago has me thinking of the frustrations being expressed on this forum. It has to do with the political polarizations that have us in a more or less stagnant state, unable to move together toward a positive solution, and what we might be able to do about that.

In the past, in countries where the internal dissension was threatening to tear the society apart, the ruler would find an external group for the people to focus their attention on, and the country would bond together to fight that outside enemy. In other words, the solution for polarizing attitudes within the group was to go to war with a different, external group. The medieval English kings were often experts at that game. Former President George W. Bush attempted to use the ploy, but he did not have the skill and finesse of, say, Henry V, whose father, Henry IV, did not have a clear claim to the throne, so that rival claimants were threatening civil war until the young Henry V turned their attention to France. Kenneth Branaugh's 1989 film is a classic, and one that is not limited to Shakespeare fans in its ability to bring about a change in the way we look at things.

William James pointed out that going to war was a deeply ingrained solution, much in the same way that we, as individuals, project our denied shadows onto other people, and that, if we were to find a way to end it, we would have to come up with a "moral equivalent to war." No matter how much we longed for peace, if we did not find a way to admit to our tendencies toward aggression, and then find a better way to channel that side of our make-up, in some direction that would hold our attention and allow us to focus on our common ground rather than our differences, we would not be able to avoid using war as a means of expressing that aggressive part of our own natures.

I, personally, see Barack Obama as part of that newer paradigm - the one that insists that war is not an option. But, how do we find an honorable new direction - away from war; away from the polarization that is tearing us apart and increasing our natural and necessary, unavoidable aggressive tendencies, without giving us a viable outlet?

Maybe that is a direction we can work on together.

Just me again.

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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 8:01 pm

Ann

You are a very good thinker:)
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyTue Aug 21, 2012 10:53 pm

Ann, I am currently reading a great book. The title is "DEBT - The First 5,000 Years" by David Graaeber.

It addresses our current situation. It also talks about how wars are debt financed. I'm not finished reading the book, taking my time as there is much to absorb. I think all of you that are concerned about our current financial and political situation would learn much from this book.

Just when we think we know much about a subject, we find that there is still so much more to learn.
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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyWed Aug 22, 2012 11:23 am

8/22/2012

I'm afraid there's no hope, within two weeks we will

be at 16 Trillion dollars ! I read this morning on CNN

the situation is so severe that many seniors are comitting

suicide because their pensions have been cut by 60% and

and Greece wants to cut more ! If we don't straighten out

this country soon, soon we'll be another Greece......



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PostSubject: Re: Maybe There is Hope After All   Maybe There is Hope After All EmptyWed Aug 22, 2012 7:34 pm

Have no fear, Joe; we will never be another Greece. We are not part of the Euro and many other differences. Worrying about the debt will get us nowhere; we need to implement the programs proposed by the Obama administration and stopped by the Republicans.
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