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Betty Fasig
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 3:47 pm

So, there I was,
Trying to get past all the political trash and into my own life which is growing vegetables and trying to sell them, keeping my house and grounds groomed to perfection(I never can accomplish that) and learning my piano chords. I think that there are not better friends than I have met here on Shelagh's author message board.  It seems that we have all forgotten why we are here and have a bunch of political opinions taking the place of the purpose of this lovely message board. 
To me, everyone is welcome to their opinion as, I hope, I am to mine.
I love stories and the telling of them and the writing of them and the authors of them.  At night, I tell stories to my own self.  Some are downright bizarre and others I cannot remember in the morning.
We have all seemed to change and gone away from the purpose of this wonderful board that Shelagh has provided.  I love all of you.

Love,
Betty
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 11:43 pm

It may sound strange, but when I look at my garden I think of Betty.  I wonder how she would tackle a particular chore.  Many have opinions on how to prepare a garden, how or what to plant and the care needed for growth.  What some fail to consider is the climate needed to make it happen.  Too cold, too hot, to dry or too wet affects the end result.  That may determine where to plant.  Some plants like lots of sun while others thrive better in a shady area. We may think that "We did it", but without mother nature to assist, our efforts are for naught.  A nature lover is not just about plants, but includes animals.  They require a good habitat to thrive.  When animals raid our garden, it is normal to be upset.  On another thread we talk about Migrants.  Animals also migrate foraging for food as well as finding a place to spend the winter.  Native Americans moved to areas to spend the winter and then moved again for the summer months.  Seeking a habitat that provides food and shelter is normal for both humans and animals. Planting takes into consideration the protection of the plants from unwanted moochers.  Some build fences to keep out the animals. 
When I lived in Nothweiler my house was surronded by forests and the deer found my garden a delight.  I used Tomato plants to shield my lettuce.  The deer would chomp on the tomato plant and drop it.  I assume it had a bitter taste.  The deer would often turn away and forage somewhere else.  To protect salad from snails, I found that planting garlic around the lettuce kept the snails away.  I mention this only to support my theory that planting is not just sticking seeds into the ground, but also takes into consideration the elements in which the plants can grow. Betty knows this.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Oct 15, 2015 2:55 pm

So, there I was with my daughter, Shelly, in the Joann's Fabric shop to buy the material for the little quilt with the flowers that I shall make for my great grand, Julia. How expensive it all is! But, I found lovely fabrics for the flowers and the sky and the earth.  When I have a vision in my mind of what the material should look like and then go looking for that, I am always disappointed.  So, I try to go with an open mind and pick one fabric that will go with the next and then they all have to kind of complement and blend the quilt into a whole. We spent three hours.  But, I came home with what I think is the makings of an awesome little quilt. 
I also got the cauliflower plants and some collard green seeds.  Had to order the mustard green seed.
Tomorrow is a new day.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Oct 15, 2015 11:58 pm

Betty, unless you have a winter planting season, you are far ahead of me with thoughts of planting.  At the moment I'm tearing things out of the garden.  Yesterday I removed all the tomatoes still hanging on the stalks and placed them in a sunny area to ripen.  My compost pile is getting larger.  Hard stem stalks together with sunflowers and other branches I place on a different pile and then use my haecksler machine (shredder) to shred them into fine pieces and throw that on the compost pile.  Once the decomposition takes place, I spread that over the garden as fertilizer.  It is interesting in the spring when things begin to grow to find that tomato, potato and even pumpkin plants begin growing having survived the decomposition process. 
Like you, we don't throw anything away.  I heard on the news that one third of all food goes to waste.  That is not true in our house.  If it is edible, we find a way to use it. 
"A penny saved is a penny earned" is attributed to something Benjamin Franklin once said.  The meaning and relevance is still applicable today.  Older folk are more conscious of saving things than today's young people.  The young are caught-up in our throw-away society.  Something breaks, instead of repair, buy a new one.  How long has it been since you took a pair of shoes to the shoemaker for repair?  There are still few shoemakers where I live, but one must search for them.  The reality is that one can often buy a new pair at the cost of repair.  Good shoes, the ones that have been shaped to your foot from years of wear, are worthy of repair.  
Antiques are sought after as they not only represent the past, but are also well built.  In the US, something that is 100 years old is considered antique.  Specially crafted furniture with carved designs is among the things people seek.  Today, the young buy furniture kits and slap them together.  It is only a matter of time before they break and then discarded. 
Betty, I think at our age, we are considered antique with less value than many material things.  Throwing the senior away and replacing them with something new is today’s reality.  There are exceptions where some employers appreciate the value of the mature person – a person with experience who is loyal and dependable.  That however is rare. 
You have value, Betty.  What you experienced is unique.  You have much of value to share.  The only word of caution is not to “cast your pearls before swine.”
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySun Oct 18, 2015 10:20 am

Abe,
The only time we do not grow anything is in the summer.  It is too hot then and too many insects.  Yesterday, I planted 700 strawberry plants.  A few things are left to plant.  Curly mustard, a pointy headed cabbage and the spinach. Most everything that has been planted has come up except the peppers.  Peppers take a while to germinate.  The on-line market that I sold through last year has decided not to do it this year.  I have my own online market that will open as soon as the vegetables are ready to pick.  The site is not yet finished, but you can look at what I have done by going to www.duettelocallygrown.net
Love,
Betty
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySun Oct 18, 2015 6:40 pm

I tried to go but it didn't go...maybe my computer.  I grew a yuca plant that is exquisite this summer.  I planted it from a cutting and it is now 14 feet tall and beautiful.  It takes about a year to develop a root worth killing the plant for...and one has to be careful with the root because if not processed correctly it makes cyanide poison - but cassava is a main food in much of the world - very high carbohydrate and some other minerals.  The tapioca comes from it so since we don't die from cyanide poisoning eating tapioca pudding, it must be possible to cultivate.

Anyway, I am further south in Florida than you and this cassava grows in summer wonderfully.  I also have a beauty berry bush that makes lovely purple berries on the trunk that can be made into jam and it grows well in summer. Of course, neither is a cash crop.  They are for personal enjoyment that requires zero gardening knowledge.  I'm just a little concerned about the root and cyanide though.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySun Oct 18, 2015 10:58 pm

Betty, I had trouble accessing the website, but eventually got it.  The picture is beautiful.  The copy your wrote explains much.  Although obvious to many, I think what is missing is reference to "Organically-grown".  This buzz word can assist in bringing attention to your produce.

JMO.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 4:25 am

Betty, may I suggest an intro for your Website?



"Introducing Betty Fassig’s Organic Gardens.  Produce for your health and dining pleasure."


Just an idea, perhaps someone else can come up with a better intro.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 9:14 am

Abe,

How did you get it?
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 10:07 am

It came up as one of the search options.  I just followed the words in her web address and chose that one.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 3:44 pm

For all the people who tried to see the site, I forgot a dot.  Here is the address:

http://duette.locallygrown.net/

I cannot be organic.  I use very little insecticide, and have a sterile media and liquid fertilizer, but I must spray on occasion.  If I did not, the vegetables would be so expensive because very few of them would be without blemish.  People want perfection.  I cannot wave a wand and produce that.  I think you are right, Abe.  I need to put out what I really do, which is minimal sprays with no oil based thing. No neonicanoids. (I do not know that is the spelling) because we have bee hives.   We do try our best to produce safe and clean food.  Our competition is great and not often really truthful about what they do.  Sometimes it is politics and the big growers get pass by inspection and put the small farmer out of competition. 
Thank you all for your looking in. 
Don, and DK, I am sorry you had trouble finding my site.  It was my error. I hope you both are well.  You are two wonderful of a people.
Love,
Betty
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 4:36 pm

Betty,

Found it...lovely site...WOW!
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyMon Oct 19, 2015 9:34 pm

Betty, you may want to check on the insecticide substances you use.  Many grape growers use insecticides.  All use something to control insects.  Eco-Vin is a symbol used by some growers that indicate "Ecologically" produced grapes and that symbol is used on the label.  The spray used in this case is organically based and does not contain harmful substances to humans.  The process is more costly in that the spray does not stick to the grapes like some chemicals and rain will wash it off thus requiring more frequent spraying.

It may be worth your while to check with the producers of the sprays you use as well as the requirements (if any) that determine what is considered organic.  It is possible that you may qualify to use the "organic" label.  In any event, you will have the information you need.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Dec 31, 2015 7:19 pm

So, There I Was, looking in.  Looking in on the messages in this window of my world, the computer screen. What a vision it is!  How much information and how many lovely people blab away....just like me...telling their stories with their fingers.  Words that would never escape their minds in everyday life are blazoned on a clean, white page in space. 
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySat Mar 05, 2016 3:55 pm

So, There I was, waiting.  Waiting for all the tests that need to be done to know what is wrong. My David, a strong person, a person without malice, a person of love and family and hope spent a week in Tampa General Hospital because his legs were swollen as well as the rest of him. 
Non-small cell lung cancer...even though no cancer is in his lungs.  It is beside his lung and attached to the vein that brings the blood back from his legs to the heart.  The last report is that they will try to pinpoint the exact strain of cancer to better target it.  It is too close to his heart for radiation. Chemotherapy is his option. 
He has had two chemo treatments and is going for the double chemo on the 22nd of March.  He is so swollen from the waist down that it is hard to walk.
I have read that if you have cancer the best thing you can do is to make your body as alkaline as you can without hurting your organs.  That means no ph over 8.  We are doing that with a couple of teaspoons of soda in a glass of water with some honey because the sugar is supposed to carry the soda alkalinity directly to the cancer. 
Scared?  Yes we are.  Hope?  What else is there to do.  If anyone knows something to help, we will think about it. 
For all the people who read this and have a kind feeling for Wooffer and the woods and his dad and his mom, (that is me) we thank you for all the kind thoughts, prayers, dances, and if you could converse directly with God, please remember my David in your conversations.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySat Mar 05, 2016 11:35 pm

Betty,
everything you said is taken to heart.  Thoughts/prayers continue.  As for advice, that is a danger.  Learning about a disease/illness becomes intense for the person or family involved.  Sometimes they know as much or more than their physician.  How to deal with it is the problem.  Often the patient knows what will make them feel better.  Their body is telling them what they need. 
Deprivation of what the body is accustomed to is not a good thing.  Any sudden change affects the body in various ways.  I was discussing this with my daughter just last evening.  She is a nurse working with the elderly.  Her learning experience dealing with patients with various maladies has helped her to deal with issues.  She gave an example of people who drank beer on a regular basis and was suddenly cut off.  The body reacted badly to the sudden change creating other problems.  The same thing applies to people who smoked and were suddenly cut off.  She gives the elderly she works with whatever they want.  Some will never recover.  Allowing them to have the things that gave them enjoyment/pleasure is a kindness the patient appreciates.  Doctors often give the impression that they are not concerned about the patient at a certain age and give less attention/care than they would give someone much younger.  That is where the nurses/caretakers perform a valuable service to the patient.  The will to live is the strongest medicine.  When they have a patient that has given up, the patient goes downhill fast.  Those who fight the illness and want to survive have the best chance of recovery.  Instilling the will to live in a person who may have given up is the best medicine.  There is always hope.  In the process, providing the patient with whatever they want is good medicine whether that advice comes from a doctor or not.  Today, Doctors are specialists.  A general MD looks at the patient differently.  I could give various examples within my own family and friends and the odd things that occurred during their illness.  None are exactly the same and yet have a common core.  From my observation, deprivation sticks out as a major problem.  When one goes into the hospital they lose their daily routine and the food that their body is accustomed to.  That may include a glass of wine, a bottle of beer, a cigarette or whatever.  The body is fighting a specific malady while at the same time trying to adjust to the abrupt change - usually the absence of something.  Two examples that come to mind:  When my wife was in recovery from her breast cancer operation she was visited by a social worker.  The social worker asked her if she needed anything or if she could get her something.  My wife said: "I could use a glass of red wine."  The social worker said, “The hospital can’t provide that, but you can ask your husband to bring some for you.”  I took her a bottle and she kept it by her bed and had a glass before going to sleep each night.  That was her customary habit.  It made her feel better and she got good nights sleep without the need for sleep medication.  On her last stay at the Clinic for treatment of Myasthenia Gravis, her room-mate was out of sorts.  When the doctor came into the room he asked the lady what was wrong based on her nervous condition.  He knew her medical history and that she was a smoker.  He said, “Why don’t you go outside and have a cigarette?”   She did and felt much better. 
Medical care is not the same everywhere.  Doing what is helpful to the patient’s overall well-being varies from country to country and even from one hospital to another.  Rules that must be followed are not easily broken by doctors; however there are times when medical professionals take it upon themselves, based on years of experience, to break the rules in favor of the patient.  In summary, the body knows what it wants.  Listening to the body can be as important or in some cases, more important than listening to the doctor. 
We know we will die and that it is only a matter of how, when or where.  Enjoying the time remaining is more important than trying to extend the inevitable for a few more months and be miserable in the process.   Do what your gut feeling tells you to do.  That is the best advice I can offer.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptySun Mar 06, 2016 3:35 pm

Dear Abe,
Thank you for your kindness and thoughtful response.  I agree.  We have gotten O'Douls beer so that it is almost like having a beer.  It is not the real thing and he knows that but the idea is good.  You have written with knowledge and passion and I love that.  I will send you a PM tomorrow.  The kindness of everyone here has helped a lot. My best love to everyone.
Love,
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 17, 2016 6:46 pm

Ahhh! I have watched as My David seems to be waiting and looking out.  He is waiting to be well and un-swollen.  He has had a chemo this week, refuses to take the anit- nausea stuff, and yet, does not hurt. 
I tried to tell him this night that if I could take on his cancer, I would.  I am better able to deal with things, especially the event of my death, than he is.  He flew into a fit.
What I mean is that he is looking out until he is cured.  I want him to take each day and do what brings him joy...not just sit on the porch   and wait to get well.  Tomorrow is anew day. I think he needs to go fishing. I know I do.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 17, 2016 11:47 pm

Betty, from what you write I think you are doing the right things.  The expression:  "Go with the flow" helps.  Trying to force things is just another pressure you don't need.  JMO.
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Apr 21, 2016 6:44 pm

Howhave we gone to relying on prayers and hope to live one day more? With all the tech stuff available. The truth is that you die because the insurance company does not care. 

It is scary.  Every week I get notices of what the insurance company will or will not cover for the stuff that will keep my David alive a little while longer.  I wonder that people have not made a stand about it. 
But, we are all so brainwashed. 
I remember when insurance was a new idea.  Not just life insurance but health insurance.  How it has ballooned into a monster that controls the whole earth. 
It is no wonder that people are ripped off by the hope that the quacks put forward on the internet. 

The first bill we got from the hospital was 87 thousand dollars.  Every visit after that brings that total up to well over a half a million.  There is not one way any human on earth without health insurance can deal with that.    In comes the ACA or Obamacare,  After the deductible of 6400. dollars, they pay the rest.  The bills of over 100,000 were a week before the Obamacare kicked in.  Any one who thinks that the ACA is not worth saving should see the bills that we get for David's care.  There is no way we can pay them on our social security.   We do not consider that charity.  We pay our insurance bill every month.  There is a lot more to this story for those of you who think we have not planned ahead.   You cannot plan ahead for Cancer.  It is an entity all it's own self.  Doctors who treat it are separate and apart.  They get really rich from cancer.. We now owe mostly close to a billion.  That is in 3 an 1/2 months/ 
I have decided that we cannot care about that large owing.  There is not one way we could pay it.I hope that my David still gets the best care out there.  Damn!
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PostSubject: Re: So, There I Was   So, There I Was - Page 8 EmptyThu Apr 21, 2016 11:03 pm

Betty.  I am aghast at your situation.  It brings to mind the quote "There but for the Grace of God go I."
Hearing things like you described confirms that the decision we made to move to Europe was the right move.  Without the medical care we have our situation would be as bad as or worse than yours.  We would either both be dead or destitute.  A country where people still claim it to be the “greatest” is a delusion.  It is true that there are some things better than others, but one must take in the whole picture.  Although I have never used ACA, I applauded the program when it was introduced.  I have relatives (brothers, sister and cousins) that are my age or more who are confronted with the problems associated with affordable healthcare or even having access to care.  It is such a sad thing.  It is one reason that I applaud the things said by Sanders.  Healthcare should be a right, not a privilege.  America says that it has the best healthcare in the world.  Having the technical knowledge and equipment doesn’t mean much unless you can afford it.  It is available only to the rich.
It is difficult for anyone to offer suggestions without knowing all the details.  As far as paying what is owed, my first impulse would be to go bankrupt and wipe out the debt.  It is what the rich do to preserve what they have.  Of course your first priority is getting David well again.  Don’t worry about racking up charges.  Sustaining life it more important than any amount of money.  Ask for help, especially with governmental agencies and/or politicians.  You are a fighter and the fight is not over until the final bell. 
If there is anything I can do to help, just ask.  I can’t make any promises, but will do what I can.
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Betty, the following web address was sent to me by my daughter in Virginia.  She says that there are organizations available that can help:
http://stupidcancer.org/directories/money.shtml

I also sent an inquiry to Bernie Sander's headquarters.  If they respond I will put them in direct contact with you.  Please give me your email address and telephone number.  You can do that using the prvate messaging or send it to me at abemarch@aol.com

Hope you have a good weekend.
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I guess I don't understand Obamacare.  Anyone over 65 is covered by Medicare.  It covers 80% of medical cost and so another policy has to be added to cover the extra 20% or like me, you get less coverage overall by enrolling in an advantage plan that is one payment for dr., hospital and drug coverage - mine added useless dental.

My understanding of Obamacare is that it is for the uninsured.  It expands the universe served by medicaid in the states but the vindictive republican governors (most not all) refused the fed money so they let those additional uninsured just die.  People without resources get subsidies to help make the payments and there are choices of how much insurance to keep premiums affordable. There's an income tax penalty for not having insurance for those with the income to afford some policy. It put in place free health screenings that save a lot of grief by early disease discovery and treatment in some cases. It made pre-existing conditions covered.

Before Obamacare I was dating a very nice man who had owned several businesses and was very successful.  He and his wife lived in beautiful homes and had cottages, boats, cars and I think even a share in an airplane.  They traveled and lived a good life.  The economy had a downturn and he sold his businesses to gain the capital to buy a new one.  In the down time, to save a little, he let their medical insurance drop as they were quite healthy.

His wife was diagnosed with cancer.  With zero insurance over the next two years every dime they had in the world was sucked out by the medical profession until they had nothing and about the same time, she died.  The hospital sued him for payment.  In helping his wife, he did not buy the new business but instead worked for another company for much less so he had the free time to help her live and the money for a while to pay for the best treatments.

An attorney friend of mine introduced me to this gentle man with a warm smile and not a farthing to his name.  The attorney negotiated with the hospital to take every thing that might have financial value and then leave him alone. Otherwise, he would have been saddled with the remaining debt the rest of his life.  The alternative was bankrupcy. When I met him, he was renting a small condo in a not so great neighborhood, driving an elderly used car and working in sales.  He was 60. He was a contract sales employee without any insurance for his own health - he was also not a great salesman and scrimped every penny. He was simply a fine, hard-working person who worked all his life to gain the success he found - and lost everything including the love of his life.

The cost of pharmaceuticals and laboratory tests is beyond comprehension.  The whole medical situation is beyond comprehension.  It won't change in my lifetime, but putting in place a single payer HMO medical system that insures everyone is the only answer I see to bring down costs and stop the control by the profit mongering insurance and pharma industries.  But just like so many other corporate monsters in this global economy, they seem impossible to stop.

All I can say Betty is that Abe is correct about seeking every agency and representative and asking for help - and make them aware of the trauma in seeking help - but just try to get it anyway.  My heart is hoping for you and your David to get what you need.
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DK, I admit that I don't fully understand the ACA program either.  It appears to be beneficial for those who have no insurance; however it is not a Universal healthcare program.  Most American health insurance companies do not cover everything, especially pre-existing conditions.  That is the one big plus with the ACA program. 
I guess I'm spoiled with the healthcare program I have.  When I sold health insurance, I became aware of how these programs worked.  For the most part, they only want to insure healthy people.  Secondly, to get a reduced rate, they offer large deductibles where you pay the first (specified amount).  When I returned to the States and wanted to get health insurance, I sought a 100% coverage program like the one I had in Europe.  It didn't exist.  80/20 was the norm in addition to exclusions.  The only people, excluding the rich, that can get full care are those on welfare.  Either one is rich or poor to get care.  You often hear people complaining that they must subsidize those who are unemployed.  They fail to realize that their tax dollars are funding those who are down and out.  Fortunately there is a welfare program.  That is constantly in jeopardy along with Social Security where the GOP threatens to cut it along with reducing or eliminating other social programs.  It is so sad to see what is happening especially when one knows it could be better.  If there was not so much arrogance, they would evaluate a number of European programs and learn how they work.  There is so much negativity against it that people do not even try to understand how they work and accept the BS from their insurance carriers.  The European programs are not free.  In general, everyone pays based on their income.  Of course if one has no income, there is no payment.  It is a fair system that works and the insurance carriers make a good profit.  Mine actually send money back to me when they had excessive profits.  I doubt that such an occurrence would never happen in America.  Medicine is big business in America from the pharmaceutical companies, the doctors and the insurers.  I doubt that we can change that mentality, but we can scream and complain to improve the system.  It won’t happen by being quiet.
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I thought I would bring this thread up by posting what I first posted at the top of this page.  We were all so connected then.  It seems a long while ago.  Let us start over with ourselves. Love, Betty
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Trying to get past all the political trash and into my own life which is growing vegetables and trying to sell them, keeping my house and grounds groomed to perfection(I never can accomplish that) and learning my piano chords. I think that there are not better friends than I have met here on Shelagh's author message board.  It seems that we have all forgotten why we are here and have a bunch of political opinions taking the place of the purpose of this lovely message board. 
To me, everyone is welcome to their opinion as, I hope, I am to mine.
I love stories and the telling of them and the writing of them and the authors of them.  At night, I tell stories to my own self.  Some are downright bizarre and others I cannot remember in the morning.
We have all seemed to change and gone away from the purpose of this wonderful board that Shelagh has provided.  I love all of you.

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