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PostSubject: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 9:39 pm

About time. He should have been in prison long ago.

I never understood why this family has been put on such a pedestal.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/ap_on_re_us/us_skakel_appeal
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:54 am

Really. Range from total scumbags (alky date-drowner Teddy, this guy and couple of other shirt-tail rapists) to grubbing political opportunists (Bobby--nobody seems to remember him sitting their grinning at the table on McCarthy's hit team), to philanderers and political adventurers (nobody seems to remember that Jack started the war in VietNam, kind of as a test of his pet personal project, the Green Berets), to psychos locked up in the attic, to Papa Joe himself, a rumrunner and vote-buyer.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:56 am

4/13/2010

I believe he should have been sent to
jail years ago, when he was young, I
guess he had has uncles attitude, I'm
a Kennedy, I can do what I want and get
away with it, but he wasn't a Kennedy......


Cheers..Joe
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:57 am

4/13/2010

Lin..

Don't forget murderers...


Cheers..Joe
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 7:04 am

I never thought he had much appeal in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 7:19 am

Kennedy cousin loses appeal Icon_smile
But literally true. He filed an appeal based on expiration of statute of limitations. (I don't think even Massachusetts has a statute limit on murder one)

Then suddenly some guy appears who tells a private eye employed by the defendant that two guys in a bar confessed to doing the crime...and therefore his trial should be set aside because of new evidence.

Now I ask you....
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 7:21 am

Carolyn's next book should be called "An Entitlement Mentality." It was in full flame when she she thought she should be handed that NY senator seat, on credentials consisting mainly of living an inherited life of luxury.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 7:23 am

Lin wrote:
Then suddenly some guy appears who tells a private eye employed by the defendant that two guys in a bar confessed to doing the crime...and therefore his trial should be set aside because of new evidence.

And oh, the irony. The Great White Liberal Kennedys doing the age-old schtick of Blame It On The Black Guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 7:51 am

I was just editing a book for some guys ("Mayan Calendar Girls"...watch for it) that has a scene in it with Caroline.

Obama has started his own prime time talk show, the POTUS show, and she's a guest.

Obama says like, “Doesn’t sound like trading on unearned cachet from your family name in order to run for Senator of a state you never lived in and actually despise created much of a problem for you.”

And Carolyn say, "Like I said, Barry, Hillary's been a great inspiration to me."

He asks her what her future plans are and she says
“Well, it looks to me like the Secretary of State gig is easy to snag. I’m thinking of marrying some famous guy and going to secretary school.”
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 8:21 am

The Kennedy family has done some harm to the country, that is true. However, I fail to see anyone here whose family has done as much good for the country as the Kennedys, so maybe the judging should be left to someone better qualified. Say, God.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 8:27 am

Oh, I know a lot of families who've done more for the country, actually.
And never killed anybody, raped anybody, started any wars, drank themselves to death, ran illegal booze, helped McCarthy run the Red Scare and Black List, bought elections.......

I have a hard time thinking of one single positive benefit to the country brought about by Bobby, Joe or Teddy Kennedy. JFK gets down to what people think of what he accomplished in three years as a president.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 8:31 am

Well, Caroline does some philanthropy with money earned from jobs she never held, so that should be worth something?

Something in particular I've always wondered about is why everyone "works" but the Kennedys "serve." We ALWAYS hear about their Noble Public Service. Like they've got so much else going on their lives, but have chosen to serve The Great Unwashed with their exceptional talents.

Never mind that they "serve" in political jobs that pay more than what most taxpayers who support their salaries earn, with gold-plated benefits.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 8:33 am

I look in the history books and under Kennedy I find thousands of pages, with some good and some bad.

Funny thing is, when I look up anyone else here, I usually only find a couple of lines, that is if there's even a mention at all. And before you start on mine, there are countless pages on the Harpes, most of them mention serial killers. I'm ok with that.

Judge the Kennedy's if you wish, but then lay your own accomplishments on the table beside theirs and lets see who's had the biggest impact.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 8:41 am

You have missed the point. The discussion was not about relative impact of people here vs. the Kennedys (well, you're discussing it by yourself, but no one else is). It was more wondering about the privilege they have to the point where they're not convicted for crimes that anyone else would be, or think they should be handed a Senate seat because their ancestors were prominent.

Or that the FBI consults with them before releasing files.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 9:01 am

Well, damn, LC, get real for just a moment won't you. Whatever makes you think that there are not two separate sets of justice in this country? One for the super wealthy, and another for everyone else. The Kennedys just happen to get written about more than most, but the fact remains that for most of the wealthy, justice not only can be bought, it is done so every day. It's just that most of them keep it completely out of the media.

Besides, as a non person here, your opinion doesn't mean a hell of a lot anyway, now does it?
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 9:15 am

Sorry LC, I shouldn't have said that.

I really don't have a dog in this hunt, so I'll leave it to those of you who are close to the Kennedys to discuss their ups and downs.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 9:27 am

Ok, well whose ups and downs should we discuss, then? Sandra Bullock and Jesse James's? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 9:27 am

Ah, the more google hits, the more "service". How do they stack up against Michael Jackson and Paris Hilton?

As far as all the good they do, I mentioned that good is subjective. For instance, was passing that Health Care bill good? Kind of depends on who you ask.

on the other hand the things I mention like rape and murder and pandering to McCarthy and kicking off VietNam are sort of generally seen as bad by pretty much everybody.

And they get protected it from the consequences by their money and their myth.

(The "what have you done" is a ridiculous cheap shot, like kids who counter criticisms of Bonds or McGuire for using steroids by saying, "So how many home runs did YOU hit?"

But since you are talking about families, and trying to turn things personal.... let me see.
My father was a much decorated war hero who ended his military career as Professor of Military Science at Seattle University. One of his brothers was in the Park Service and rose to be the head ranger pf the Blue Ridge Parkway, and then director of the SouthEastern District of the United States. During his administration he created and inaugurated a new National Park that won international fame and awards. His other brother was a civil engineer who also rose to administer a national region as well as going to Kenya as part of an aid program and setting up their water system, which brought him awards in DC and medals and personal thanks of two African presidents.
My paternal grandfather was principal of a high school much beloved as a life guide in North Carolina. People who praised his influence on their lives and attended his funeral included the governor of that state, Federal Transportation Secretary Terry Sanford (who they later named the school after) and Sen. Sam Ervin, who you may recall from the Watergate hearings.
My grandmother was also a principal and integrated the first public school in the South. (Check it out in a book called "Breakthrough on the Color Front" among others) Her brother was personal adviser on sports to Mayor Laguardia of New York. He was sitting at LaGuardia's family table at the inauguration of the airport. His funeral was attended by several friends who had worked with him to save at-risk youth through sports in New York, including Joe DiMaggio, Joe Louis, and Jack Dempsey. Her sister was the first female president of a college, her other sister was a cabinet official for education in North Carolina and later in South Carolina.

But, like the non-person said, they didn't yap about service. They just did their jobs. And what good they did for people was real and measurable and continues in effect to this day. And they didn't run around with a license to kill and rape and drive drunk.

The funny thing is, this isn't such a special thing. My guess is there are others who could present a similar picture.

It's a scummy clan that got money through crime, bought power and abused it.

And I can say so if I want to. Because there really isn't such a thing as a non-person. That's kind of an un-American idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 10:45 am

In those two posts I read yada yada sandra james blah blah mccarthy vietnam yada blah yada blah unamerican.

Gibberish to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 10:48 am

There's an old southern saying hat goes, "I wouldn't walk across the street to watch a pissant eat a bale of hay." Or, in the words of that most wonderful superstar, Shania Twain, "That don't impress me much."
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In those two posts I read yada yada sandra james blah blah mccarthy vietnam yada blah yada blah unamerican.

Gibberish to me.

I'm starting to realize that.
Americans with reading disabilities are persons, too.
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In those two posts I read yada yada sandra james blah blah mccarthy vietnam yada blah yada blah unamerican.

Gibberish to me.

I'm starting to realize that.
Americans with reading disabilities are persons, too.
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In those two posts I read yada yada sandra james blah blah mccarthy vietnam yada blah yada blah unamerican.

Gibberish to me.

I'm starting to realize that.
Americans with reading disabilities are persons, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Kennedy cousin loses appeal   Kennedy cousin loses appeal EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 11:02 am

Since you seem to have a little problem with comprehension, I'll recap.

You made a big hog fart about how other people's families don't do as much as the Kennedy clan. I mention some of the things just ONE family of people on here do and you come off with your dyslexia drivel and you you don't care about it.

I could connect those dots for you, but I think it's probably more your speed to just quote another southern thinker, "You're an asshole, boy. And it ain't nobody else's fault but your own."
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lin wrote:
"You're an asshole, boy. And it ain't nobody else's fault but your own."

If you're calling me an asshole, you're right, I am, and I admit it. What's your point? Oh wait, like all your other posts you don't seem to have one

The word pathetic comes to mind.
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