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Abe F. March
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PostSubject: Praying   Praying EmptyThu Jul 09, 2015 10:15 pm

Some thoughts on prayer.
 
I often read posts requesting prayer as well as those sending prayers. 
My mother was a “prayer warrior”.  She prayed for every member of the family by name.
She prayed for the sick and for the backsliders.  She asked God to “Give them no rest day or night until they repent.” 
Considering that God knows everything and remembers everything.  Why does one feel it necessary to remind him?  If you tell him what you desire, does he need reminded?  On the second go, wouldn’t it be better to thank him for hearing your prayer(s)?
 
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyThu Jul 09, 2015 10:54 pm

I was always taught God hears and answers all prayers...but the answer is not always what we want!
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyThu Jul 09, 2015 11:22 pm

It is wise to trust his judgement.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyFri Jul 10, 2015 2:49 pm

Think about the heat wave where you are, the drought on the West Coast, the floods in Texas, major earthquakes around the world, and a super typhoon bearing down on Shanghai and tell me he's not pissed.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyFri Jul 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Good point, Don. 
I've often wondered why there are so many tornadoes and storms in the Bible Belt.  Something amiss?
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 3:43 am

The world evolves and the forces of nature cannot be controlled,  but human nature can be manipulated and ordered. Religion plays an important part in helping humans to work together with common goals. The present period of history is rejecting the past and replacing religious thought with individualism. Young people today are just as like minded as those of the past. They live in peaceful times and can concentrate on their own needs and desires because their lives are not threatened, and they do not live in fear of foreign invasion. Their beliefs are centered on themselves, and they have a very strong feeling of self. They are firmly of the belief that they should be allowed to do anything that brings them happiness and, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else, they should be given complete freedom over their own bodies and way of life.

This attitude produces a disorganised society that is vulnerable to attack. I will not see WWIll, but when under threat, order will be restored and individualism will die. The baby boomers were very fortunate. Those who came before, lived and died for our freedom. Those yet to come will pay with their lives to afford the new generation of baby boomers a period of peace and stability.

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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 6:19 am

Good points, Shelagh.  As for WWIII, I'm not sure we won't live to see it.  There are currently things that can trigger such an event.  Just recall the assassination that started WWI.  God I hope I'm wrong.  I do worry about my children and grandchildren and what they may live to face. 

I believe in a ordered society.  Everybody doing their own thing tends to create chaos.  Moralilty is still part of living whether that is religious inspired or just something instilled in us from birth - God given.  Somehow we know right from wrong and that is not always based on man-made or even religious laws. 

My take on God has already been expressed as a universal intelligence.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 11:15 am

The problem with early religions and many in the present time is that they are based on fear of consequences for poor behavior.  Instead, I find it more in line with the current evolution of the human mind to believe we can self regulate in search of good instead of fearing fates worse than death.

Even when people declare themselves free of any religious beliefs, they are still affected by the society in which they live that is likely organized according to some religious belief system though it may go by other nomenclature.

It seems every group of people across the planet ask "why?"  To find those answers they create beliefs they pass on from the answers they created at the time.  It reminds me of the stories I told my children in the southern storms about God bowling and using lightning to celebrate a strike. It comforted them just as our Bible stories and other religious myths comfort us.

As scientific knowledge, knowledge of the earth, knowledge of the human body and just plain knowledge in general has exploded, there's more to question and old answers are no longer valid.  Yet, we must have some guide for human behavior and we still crave explanations for those things unknown.  

There are many people in the church faith to which I hang my hat who have gained some measure of prosperity by writing books they claim were directed by God's voice and therefore the truth. Some are quite well written and the authors have great stories to tell (as they sell their books and they market themselves as experts). I try to write truth as I understand it, and believe if there is a God, that unheard voice speaks through each of us in different ways.  These people are not unique.

I close my eyes and listen for God's voice and hear instead the many voices in the brain that reflect all that I remember and don't remember from all my life's experiences, much praying among them.  I may see the image of the God floating on clouds with lots of white hair holding out his hand because that's what I  believed when young.  

I remember talking to Jesus Christ when I was a Southern Baptist.  I don't remember Him talking back but I did dream once that he held his hand out to me.  I remember in a crisis asking him to take me in his arms and comfort me.  I did feel comforted.  Today, I see the comfort coming from myself, not any mystical arms.

And all this leads to my estimation of prayer.  Prayer puts my energy in a concentrated mode and from my socialization gives me hope.  Hope is creative in itself.  With hope one can move on to new horizons in spite of the traumas that life brings.  Prayer creates a sense of hope. And perhaps the combined prayer across the globe creates a global energy, or even in a small group, and if there's any chance it makes a difference, it's worth doing.  Like giving blood to save lives, a gift that refills the giver, so amazing.

One of my favorite long prayers is , "Dear God, I don't know who or what or where you are or even if you in terms I can understand exist anywhere today.  But if you are out there and hear my prayer, I could really use some help and I'm grateful for all that you have provided this world and will try to understand whatever path I seem to be following as being in just the right place in spite of my misgivings."  

Just taking the time to concentrate on a belief in a higher power, a source of hope, strengthens me in whatever I am facing at the moment.  I sometimes feel a sense of calm seep in.  The religious would say it's God making his presence known.  I really don't know.  Like many with questions, though, I have felt a superior presence in my life at critical times - and whether it was a brain response to stress or the hand of God, it was a good feeling.

I've often believed that the wisdom that grows with age and the changes in the body seem to bring us full circle in our birth to death ritual.  We are just a more complex version of the rest of the flora and fauna in nature that have a life cycle.  At birth, we carry our full genetic code as amazing as it is, in many ways a predictor of our adult life. We seek knowledge.  It is an innate drive like thirst or hunger.  When we are bursting with so much knowledge we start forgetting some things, we are moving closer to the end of our lives, just as a leaf reaches its full glory over time before it wilts and returns to the earth.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 11:59 am

But the anti-religion activists are just as fervent as the believers of the faith they want to destroy. Anti-religion has become a religion. Just as the missionaries wanted to convert people to Christianity, these non-believers want to convert Christians to Atheism. It's the same "you must think like me" mentality disguised as freedom of thought!

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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 3:35 pm

Shelagh wrote:
But the anti-religion activists are just as fervent as the believers of the faith they want to destroy. Anti-religion has become a religion. Just as the missionaries wanted to convert people to Christianity, these non-believers want to convert Christians to Atheism. It's the same "you must think like me" mentality disguised as freedom of thought!
Shelagh,

I agree...WELL SAID!
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Jul 11, 2015 4:07 pm

I didn't know atheists attempted to convert Christians.  That is new to my thoughts.  I see people who do not wish to conform to specific religious dogma using the justice system to remove symbols of Christianity just as the "Christians" use the justice system to fervently  force their beliefs on a religiously diverse nation through the same means.  That is probably a good thing in a democracy to have this squabbling as it brings to light the need to determine what we wish to have as a united nation that serves diverse people gathered together in these 50 states.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySun Jul 12, 2015 12:30 am

This is an interesting and complex subject.  Being brought up in a strict religious home that shaped my thoughts/beliefs and then having traveled and lived with people of other beliefs; having witnessed war and disaster, being exposed to denial of events combined to change my outlook on life and even my faith.  Then there was another adjustment - learning from my children who brought home new ideas and thoughts from their studies at the university. Our life experiences combine to shape our views.  I often find it frustrating when making a statement and then being challenged.  To respond with clarification would require much background information that can be very tiring if not futile.
We are influenced by the society in which we live that combines the home, the school, the neighborhood, the church and even politics.
 
During my entrepreneurial years, working in Canada altered my views on the relationship between Canada and the USA.  Working in Greece influenced my opinions about the current Greek crisis.  Working in the Middle East influenced my thinking in a dramatic way.  I went there pro-Israel and with the American attitude that what we did and our methods were the best.  My attitude changed.  Afterwards I made the statement that “You can do things your way, in your manner and lose, or you can do things your way in their manner and win.”   That conclusion would require much explanation.  The path I took before arriving in Beirut helped to shape my thinking and prepare me for a new venture filled with adjustments.  I was alone.  There was no company backing me up providing support.  There were times when I needed to call on a higher power for guidance to strengthen my will to risk.  Even being physically alone, I had the feeling that I was not alone and that was comforting.  Learning how to live and work in a foreign environment was a great challenge.  People would say to me:  “You don’t understand the Lebanese mentality.”  At some point when confronted with that statement I asked: “What is that mentality?”  No one could answer it except to say that the way they did things was based on the Koran.  I bought a copy of the Koran in English and was determined to learn about this “mentality” thing.  There were problems with that.  The first one was that some words in Arabic cannot be translated with full meaning.  Many footnotes attempted to explain certain words or passages; however it still could not give an accurate meaning.  It is said that one can only understand the Koran who understands Arabic.  We find that problem with the Bible - with translations from one language to another and how interpretations can vary.
In the process, I did acquire a sense of meaning and understanding.  Further I was held in greater esteem by reading the Koran. 
It is human nature wanting to think that your country, your way of life, your religion is best.  Why?  In some cases it is because we chose to live where we do.  In other cases, it may be because it is our home.  We compare the rest of the world based on our values and way of life. 
Migrants coming to Europe seek a better life, however they want to live in the manner they did in their country of origin.  It just doesn’t work.  Integration sounds good, however not an easy thing to do.  People want to live together with “their own kind” and continue a way of life they are comfortable and accustomed to.  Can that work?  Does segregation work?  Is it right or okay?  Is that for us to decide?  Education must play a larger role.  Acclimation and adjustment is necessary for a business to work and/or for people to live together in peace and harmony.
There are no clear answers to many complex situations.  Seeking answers helps.  Learning from the experience of others is another form of education.  I’ve learned much from the group on this forum.  Varied backgrounds shed light on the posts they make.
When I worked in Holland I gained more insight about the continued resentment toward the Germans.  It is passed down from one generation to another based on the war years.  The war may be over, but memories continue to influence current attitudes.
We recently experienced controversy about the Confederate Flag reviving war memories and slavery.   Trying to change how one feels about something that is deeply ingrained into ones psyche is not easy.  Who is right?  Does it matter?  I think it matters only for those who feel it matters to them.  Trying to change ones beliefs is most often an exercise in futility, yet the effort continues with religion and political views. 
And the beat goes on….
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyMon Jul 13, 2015 4:08 am

dkchristi wrote:
I didn't know atheists attempted to convert Christians.  That is new to my thoughts.  I see people who do not wish to conform to specific religious dogma using the justice system to remove symbols of Christianity just as the "Christians" use the justice system to fervently  force their beliefs on a religiously diverse nation through the same means.  That is probably a good thing in a democracy to have this squabbling as it brings to light the need to determine what we wish to have as a united nation that serves diverse people gathered together in these 50 states.

Atheists are not only active, they are teaching others how to persuade believers to abandon their faiths:

http://m.wikihow.com/Persuade-a-Christian-to-Become-Atheist

There's even a page on facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Converting-Christians-to-Atheists/181492661904884

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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyMon Aug 03, 2015 8:57 am

Shelagh wrote:
But the anti-religion activists are just as fervent as the believers of the faith they want to destroy. Anti-religion has become a religion. Just as the missionaries wanted to convert people to Christianity, these non-believers want to convert Christians to Atheism. It's the same "you must think like me" mentality disguised as freedom of thought!

Shelagh,
I'm anti-religion. I believe all religions are false, and not from God. I believe in God, and his written word in the scrolls...I do not believe in the bible. Religions claim the bible was taken from the scrolls, yet the two do not match on many major issues. God is real, and can be proven so...with religion he can not. Religions turn people away from God, and the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyMon Aug 03, 2015 10:07 am

Domenic, today I received a copy of Jefferson's Bible.  I'll comment on it when I've finished reading it.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 11:52 am

Shelagh wrote:
But the anti-religion activists are just as fervent as the believers of the faith they want to destroy. Anti-religion has become a religion. Just as the missionaries wanted to convert people to Christianity, these non-believers want to convert Christians to Atheism. It's the same "you must think like me" mentality disguised as freedom of thought!

Shelagh,
 
I am not a non-believer. I believe in God, and the Bible, but I have been saying for years, "Religion is not from God. All religions are false." I would, and have sat down with religious leaders and proven what they teach, is a bold face lie...and I do it using their own Bible. I understand why some have leaned toward Atheism. The goal of religion is to turn people away from God.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptyFri Dec 25, 2015 9:51 pm

There is one bible that can be trusted, The King James hired Hired 600 scholars who knew Hebrew, and Greek. Many of the 600 knew as many as seven languages. He told them to straighten out the whole bible mess. There were many different kinds of bibles at the time, all different, one from the other. One matched its first five revisions. These also matched the scrolls. This is the Bible we know today as the King James. There are about five other bibles selling today. The authors of these claim they were written from very old writing that was lost of a few thousand years. The question here would be, if God wanted his word spread through all the generations, why would it be lost for a few thousand years? These are also very different from the King James. In these new bibles it has the Morning Star being cast out of heaven. Jesus is the Morning Star. The scrolls, and the King James are clear who was cast out of Heaven, Satan.
These new bibles also have foot notes saying things like, “That may not have been true.”
These other(5) popular bibles do not match the scrolls. Only the King James does.
These other five have notes saying the rewording on many scriptures come from the Catholic religion.

It is true there are many scrolls not in the Bible.( King James.) I do not agree with the reasons they were left out. Many were in use when Jesus was on earth. One, the book of Enoch. Enoch is actually five books. The give a history of the pre-flood world. In all the bibles, and the King James, there are three scriptures which speak of Gods love for Enoch. God loved Enoch so much, that before Enoch died, God took him so he would not see death. If a man is loved that much by God, why would his writings not be trusted to part of the Bible?
This past year, the movies, “Noah,” was taken from other scrolls not in the bible. I have read those scrolls also. The move did not follow the scriptures in those scrolls. The movie had the demons helping save Noah…etc.

There are a few words in the King James that have been changed. Also there are no commas, or sentence breaks in the scrolls. A comma in the wrong place can change the meaning of a sentence. The first book in the line of the King James was written thus:
On the left side of each page was a copy of the scrolls, and the right side of the page what the Catholic church said that section of the scrolls were saying. Any one who could read Hebrew, Greek, and English could see the Catholic Church has never mad a bible that matched the scrolls.
It is also the Catholic church that is behind most of the other false bibles. My I use the King James for scriptures I know match the scrolls, but go back to the scrolls for any I am not clear on.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 5:43 am

At Christmas time we hear the stories about the birth of Christ.  There are also programs studying the history of this birth.  Most want to accept the popular version in that Jesus was born of a virgin.  According to some scholars, Jesus was an illegitimate child – a Palestinian Jew.  Since Israelis consider all Palestinians terrorists, today they might depict Jesus as just another new-born Palestinian terrorist.    
The lineage at that time was from the mother, yet there is no recorded genealogy of Mary.  The genealogy of is taken from the side of Joseph – the step-father. 
 
It matters not if Jesus was illegitimate or if Mary conceived out of wedlock.  Jesus was a special child and his life and teachings, as recorded by word of mouth and written much down much later by scribes tell of a wonderful man - a man who taught peace and forgiveness.  There are occasions when he got pissed-off and that was when he threw out the money changers – the rich.  He cared for the poor and needy.  The religious doctrine that grew out of his teachings – Christianity, is based on the New Testament   It is for that reason I have asked the question on FB:  “What is a Christian?”  “Is it a title, a way of life, etc?” The responses I got were varied, most with the same theme of believing in God.  The point I was looking for was to “live” ones religion.   If one is a Christian, one will know it by the life they lead.  Hanging a pendant around their necks proves nothing.  As Ralph Waldo Emerson said:  “What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say. “
 
As for the Virgin birth, the word “Virgin” meant “young woman”.   An entire religious dogma surrounds the virgin birth as practiced by the catholic religion.  Praying to the “holy” mother of Jesus is an interesting subject of itself based on the suspicious manner in which she conceived Jesus.  
 
In Germany there are two Christmas days.  Today is the second Christmas day and there was church service and I sang in the choir.  When the church choir sings it means that I attend church.  They only sing on Easter and at Christmas time with the exception of the spring concert where all choirs participate.
On these special occasions, there is “Abendmahl” (communion).  Eating a piece of bread representing the body of Christ and having a schluck of wine representing the blood of Christ.  That is viewed by some as cannibalistic.  Symbolism plays a role in most religious dogmas.
 
In summary, I want to wish you all a New Year full of peace and love.  A year of tolerance and of giving.  A year of turning the other cheek and forgiveness. 
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 7:39 am

Good post Abe. Good reasoning, and good questions.

You pointed to three very important subjects in the scriptures:

1) the virgin birth of Jesus.
2) Christmas.
3) the eating of the bread, and drinking the wine.

There are unproven stories of who Jesus father was. If there is a God, surly he could plant the seed of a human into a women. Here is the answers why it could not be a human seed:
Adam, and Eve by their actions, were the instrument were as a different DNA injected into the line of the human family. Thus all human seed is contaminated by this.
Jesus came here to die, and be a pure sacrifice to pay for the actions of the first two humans. That sacrifice had to be free of the contaminated DNA. To have had a human father the DNA would have been contaminated. What the sacrifice was in Jesus death was the unborn perfect human race within Jesus perfect seed. That perfect unborn human race was paid for this contaminated one.

Jesus birth: The scriptures are clear that on the night Jesus was born, the Sheppard’s were in the field. When Jesus was born, and even today, the Sheppard’s leave the fields by October. So it is clear we have a wrong date for the birth. What is December 25th, and who started it? The pagans who celebrated the sun god, Tammaz (Nimrod) would celebrated the birth of Tammaz in this manner, following their belief of how he became a god. The legend goes:  An egg fell out of heaven, and landed in lake Van. A snake embraced the egg, broke it, and the god Tammaz come out. Other gods wanted to destroy him, so he hid in the form a local tree, a Yule tree. These other gods found him, cut him down, and drug him into a dwelling. They placed him in a fireplace, set him on fire, and cooked their supper over him. The next morning Tammaz rose from the ashes in the form of a pine tree.  The pagans would celebrate the birth of the sun god, Tammaz on December 25th by cutting down a Yule tree, burning it in a fire place, and putting up a pine tree in the morning. At the top of the tree the would place a candle which was for the sun. Thy would eat, and give each other gifts.
What does Jesus say about  celebrating his birth? Here is what he says in the scriptures: “Do not celebrate my arrival ,(birth) but my departure, (death) for that is why I have come.”
How do we celebrate his death? On the day he died, we remember him, and we take of the bread, and the wine. On Jesus last nigh alive at the last supper he said, “All who do this will have life.”

So there are the three things you spoke of Abe…according to scripture.

1) I can not prove.
2) Christmas is the celebration of a false god.
3) A remembrance of Jesus as he commanded at the last supper.

I do not celebrate the birth of the sun god. I do celebrate Jesus death.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 8:16 am

I respect your opinion, Domenic.  Much of what you state is still unproven and must be taken on faith from a document that is suspect.  We can glean the good and choose to blot out the bad and that is a choice.  Theories abound.  Many books have been written on the subject.  Scholars continue search, research and still cannot prove it.  Logic plays a role along with historical incidents that make for interesting comparisons. 
If we both read the same book, any book, our take on it although similar would still differ.  Our perception on what we hear or read in the news differ. 
Let's not quabble over unimportant things.  Jesus was born and died.  He led an exemplary life for one to follow.  Some follow it while others claim to follow it.  Actions are revealing.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 10:20 am

At this time of year, the following song may help sort things out especially in our political envirnment:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmO13M8AF_Y
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 10:46 am

Abe F. March wrote:
At this time of year, the following song may help sort things out especially in our political envirnment:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmO13M8AF_Y


Well it's a good song, but I wouldn't follow Roy Rogers across the street. he was having an affair with, Ella Mae Cooley, wife of the western actor, singer, Spad Cooley. Spad found out about the affair, murdered his wife over the whole mess, and went to prison for life.

I don't follow, or build my feelings on songs. Just for the record, all those experts who make claim the bible is untrue, or unproven...well, they arn't tell the whole truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 11:21 am

Roy Rodgers and Evans were promoted as being good Christians.  Living the faith is more important than promoting the faith.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 1:08 pm

When I was eighteen, I asked our Methodist preacher if they played jazz in heaven. He said, "Certainly not. That's the devil's music." It was that kind of mindless dogmatic thinking and preaching, which I eventually realized was virtually universal among fundamentalists, that encouraged me to evaluate what I'd been taught all my young life. I think I caught it in time.

I believe in what I see, not what people tell me in person or in books. They are no better equipped than I am to figure out the unanswerable.
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PostSubject: Re: Praying   Praying EmptySat Dec 26, 2015 3:33 pm

Abe F. March wrote:
Roy Rodgers and Evans were promoted as being good Christians.  Living the faith is more important than promoting the faith.

She was, he just walked the line after that because he didn't want a divorce. He was an okay guy. He just picked flowers in another mans yard. The thing I did no like about Roy goes way back to when I was a kid, Gene Autry was king of the cowboys. He went off to war, WW2, Roy stayed home, and jumped in Genes place...as a kid that did not sit right. To put a cap on my not liking Roy, after his horse Trigger died, he had him stuffed, and put him on display him in Sams Town, a local casino in Las Vegas, before he built his Roy Rogers stupid show place that was a flop. Outside of his acting the part of the fake King of the Cowboys...I liked him. I spent ten cents every Saterday morning to go watch him, Flash Gordon, and ten cartoons. Some times I even had five cents for a candy bar. You could never hear the movie with 200 screaming kids, but boy it was a great time to be a kid. The candy bars were bigger too.
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