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Jim Woods
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PostSubject: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:12 pm

FYI, here's a link to Random House's new contractual morality clause for children's authors.

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Malcolm
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 7:25 pm

I would sign such a contract when hell freezes over. After Random House cancelled publication of "Jewel of Medina" (why isn't that breach of contract?), I think it rather odd that they're talking about morality and supposing they're gods enough there to be judging others' fitting types of behaviour.

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Phil Whitley
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 7:50 pm

That contract would be better served if it applied to priests. IMO, of course...
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Jim Woods
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 8:21 pm

I liked those author responses that suggested counter clauses to protect the author from misbehaving Random House employes and execs. if enough authors insist on those, RH is likely to drop the morality clause from the contracts.

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zadaconnaway
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 8:40 pm

Sheesh!! You are right on target, as usual, Brew!
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Phil Whitley
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 8:48 pm

Can you imagine what our classic books (and great art) would be if they had a morality clause back then?

Homosexuals, dope addicts, and ne'er-do-wells - but they shore could write and paint!
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Abe F. March
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 10:47 pm

Forcing morality on anyone is immoral.
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Brenda Hill
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyWed Aug 27, 2008 7:38 pm

I wish our politicians were required to sign something like that.
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Dick Stodghill
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyThu Aug 28, 2008 6:48 am

I can see both sides of this issue. While there may have been no written clause, most of us have held jobs where it was in effect. A newspaper reporter guilty of contributing would be out the door in a heartbeat. It wouldn't have taken that long for me to hit the pavement at Pinkerton's National Detective Agency.
In this age of tabloid journalism, a publishing company could take a real hit if one of its Young Adult writers ended up on the pages of the National Enquirer. Brew is correct about writers in days of yore, but Oscar Wilde and the others didn't live in the era of instant communication.
Writers in more modern times have been subject to higher, although frequently unjust, standards. The totally unfair Hollywood Black List is an example.
Like numerous clauses in the contracts of major publishers, this one is a matter to be worked out by each writer's agent and lawyer. That is most certainly how it will be handled.
In the meantime, it is unlikely that any writer offered a Random House contract will reject it out of hand. That would be difficult, but turning down something you don't have is far easier.
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lin
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyThu Aug 28, 2008 8:51 am

They should pass a "PeeWee Herman's Law"
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zadaconnaway
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyThu Aug 28, 2008 10:52 am

Perhaps it would be better if they were to actually define what they find immoral, such as being convicted of ____ or being the subject of X tabloid. It should contain some rules of conduct, I think.
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lin
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyThu Sep 25, 2008 9:12 am

Quote :
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Every year he flies around the globe bringing chastity belts to little children and taking away their condoms.
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Dick Stodghill
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 6:18 am

After reading all these posts again I have decided to go on being immoral. It's more fun.
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E. Don Harpe
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptyFri Sep 26, 2008 7:32 am

Check out

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and don't stop at the first page.

Still working on it and I think a couple of links might not work, but you can see what it will become.

Oh, and I didn't sign a morality clause before I wrote these "articles"
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zadaconnaway
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptySat Sep 27, 2008 12:59 am

I'm with you, Dick. One of Billy Joel's songs says he'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. I think, for myself, that says it all.

I'm going over to check the site now, Don.
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zadaconnaway
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptySat Sep 27, 2008 1:32 am

Well done, Don. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit. How do you dream this stuff up? Have you been reading the tabloids again?
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lin
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PostSubject: Re: Morality clause   Morality clause EmptySat Sep 27, 2008 10:00 am

Reneck Riviera LOL

First time I saw that phrase, it was a chapter in Ken Stabler's autobiography.

(Great reading for Bad Ol' Boy football fans)
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