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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 3:03 pm | |
| I am still disgusted.
With gas about $4.00 per gallon, the oil company execs want their subsidiies. I say, "tax them." The US govt should cease subsidizing anything and everything. What do you think?
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 3:48 pm | |
| I am boycotting oil products. We are having granite instead of corian. We use paper bags as opposed to plastic. We are tired of the oil barons. I think they should subsidize us, |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 5:07 pm | |
| The oil companies among many other industries should not be receiving subsidies. Once a subsidy starts, it perpetuates forever with new "reasons" to justify when the old reasons are no longer relevant. |
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 5:26 pm | |
| 5/12/2011
How's about farmers being paid not to produce food ! I feel this is an illegal act by the govt., it's to keep prices high, I say take it away and have all these farmers grow food, our food supply is going to go even higher now because of the floods, I say picket the govt. for their stupidities .............
Cheers..Joe |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 6:48 pm | |
| I watched a documentary about corn that was so complicated in terms of the funding streams, the super industrial complex and the piles uneaten, I was boggled. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Thu May 12, 2011 8:07 pm | |
| Maybe writers shoudl demand subsidies not to write. That would drive the price of books up as there would be fewer of them. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 5:27 am | |
| Alice, you have an idea whose time has come!!!! Creativity at its zenith. |
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dkchristi Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8594 Registration date : 2008-12-29 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 5:39 am | |
| As best I could figure out from the corn documentary, farm subsidies originally helped small farmers stay afloat. However, the big companies saw a gold mine and started buying up the small farms so that the subsidy itself became big business. The small farmers could no longer compete because they couldn't afford the equipment, didn't have the backup for the big loans they needed; and when the government encouraged them by providing loans, they could not remain competitive enough to pay them off and lost everything. Instead, those who once owned farmland are now "managers" instead of owners if they are still in farmwork at all. Agriculture is a huge industrial complex with high paid lobbyists in Washington, D. C. that wield a lot of power. Part of their "cover" is the American belief in the family farm that is now a myth except in rare cases.
That documentary was long and detailed; so, it's possible to get a detail or two out of sync. Subsidies have become very complicated; again, what began as a temporary measure in all cases has become an entrenched "right" that benefits the few at the expense of the many - and for the most part, the "few" are the wealthiest. |
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Abe F. March Five Star Member
Number of posts : 10768 Registration date : 2008-01-26 Age : 85 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 7:39 am | |
| When I bought my farm in Pennsylvania in 1970, I was encouraged not to grow any grain and could get a subsidity. I had not planned to grow grain for resale and never applied for it. What I grew I took to the feed mill and it was ground into feed for my animals. I never made a dime off the farm from crops. I enjoyed being a gentleman farmer. The money I made was on the sale of the farm. Wish I still had it. The small farmers makes very little money and it is hard work. The greatest benefit is security in bad times. Having a source of food is worth more than money in the bank. They benefit in bad economic times with a source of food.
Note: It is predicted that there will be a shortage of grain products since many farmers (large ones) have contracted their entire harvests to the oil companies for bio fuels. It wouldn't hurt to stock up on some food products, i.e., flour, cereals, etc., before the shortages hit. Price increase will be the first indication. Your money can't buy something that is no longer available. |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 8:02 am | |
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DK, you are so right. The govt no longer has money to pay for nothing.
Good idea, Abe. We do not stock up on food--probably should now.
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joefrank Five Star Member
Number of posts : 8210 Registration date : 2008-11-04 Age : 75 Location : Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 8:38 am | |
| 5/13/2011 Alice.. Buy a bread machine....Then I have a recipe for you it's called Sally Lunn Bread, English bread recipe, delicious ......! Cheers..Joe.... |
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alice Five Star Member
Number of posts : 15672 Registration date : 2008-10-22 Age : 76 Location : Redmond, WA
| Subject: Re: SHOULD THE OIL COMPANIES RECEIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES? Fri May 13, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Joe,
I can make bread without a bread machine! |
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