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Shelagh
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:21 am

If someone pirated one of my books and it became a bestseller (exactly as written), I would be delighted.

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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:32 am

Abe F. March wrote:
Read the entire article. It states:"Copyright exists from the moment the work is created." Further, it can be registered within 5 years of publication. Five years is certainly enough time to determine if it is worthwhile.

And? I never said otherwise. What does that have to do with mailing a work to yourself?
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:35 am

Shelagh wrote:
If someone pirated one of my books and it became a bestseller (exactly as written), I would be delighted.

The OP first posted as an author, but is revealing himself as just another person seeking to sell a product of dubious worth to self-published authors. Assuming the 20-yr old's book really WAS on 50 pirate sites, and the OP isn't confusing these sites with the sales sites that every book with an ISBN is automatically uploaded to, I doubt they affected the book's (lack of ) income one bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 2:11 pm

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Small fry care about their money as much as big fry. I don't know why a small/self pubbed person would buy what you are now describing as an untested product. I also find it hard to believe that 50 sites would lift the material of an unknown, self-published author. Why don't you post some of these sites, with before shots of material on them, and after with the material removed?

Yes, small fry probably care more about their money.

Why would a small fry buy what I am proposing? Piracy is theft. Theft of their money.

As for posting some of the sites with our customers material on them, due to privacy concerns, I dare not post that info into the public domain. However, I just sent you a pm with 43 links to where material was removed for two of our customers.

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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 3:02 pm

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If someone pirated one of my books and it became a bestseller (exactly as written), I would be delighted.

"...conversely, if someone uses my stuff and it flops, I could always say it was theirs to begin with..." mentioned the goblin, adding "...but either way, my writing style protects me on forumland where my posts are so identifiable as me now that I can't say I am exactly worried about whoever reposts me elsewhere under whatever username they like..", besides someone anonymous couldn't claim copyright without revealing to someone else their identity here, so the goblin just relied on atrocious grammar instead

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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 11:59 am

This picture first appeared on page 103 of my book, First Ark to Alpha Centauri, published in 2005 albeit in a marginally different form:

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The image was retrieved from this site:

http://theproximian.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/ACA-10.354170620.JPG

http://theproximian.com/

It just goes to show that you have no exclusivity over any works whatsoever.
But that's perfectly OK, mind you, since we live in a "caring and sharing" society Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 Icon_biggrin

Don't bother copyrighting anything, unless you have the power to stand up and exercise those rights when others plaigiarise your stuff.


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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 12:06 pm

Perhaps you can figure out a way to use the exposure. Tie it to your published book
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 3:24 pm

Ahad, you're right, we can't keep people from right click/saving photos, but you can lightly watermark them to make them less useful. You might apply for a Creative Commons license, too.

eta -sorry, I just re-read and saw it was lifted from your published book. So someone scanned it and just posted it on their site? The publisher should write a letter in that case.
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 2:19 am

"...losing battle..." went the goblin now, "...for once it's on facebook or photobucket, where everyone can get hold of it, I suppose you could waste the rest of your life trying to catch up with each and every user now but you'd probably be a fool to even try where most people are just hiding behind personas anyway, and where that persona can change form one to the next...", but either way, the goblin saw the real battle to be elsewhere now, saying "...no, the question is not how someone else uses ones stuff here but how to have that serve ones purpose in their doing so..." but the goblin also knew that most bookstuff here, which admittedly worked perfectly for those books of the bookworld, got thumbs down on forumland as TL;DR, "...o how I despair of readers on forumland..." lamented the goblin into his coffee now, adding "...for even this post is probably too long for them..."

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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 2:32 am

LC wrote:
So someone scanned it and just posted it on their site?

LOL.. Wouldn't that be way too blatant, LC?

"The moon is made of cheese!" , "The moon is made of cheese!", "The moon is made of cheese, I tell you!"... and if repeated enough times, that will become the accepted world-view. That the moon is made of cheese, and there's no question about it.

Then one day along comes a stranger: "The moon is made of cheese, but with a dash of rock thrown in for good measure."

Now there is a subtle difference, and this stranger's view adds a certain amount of curiosity into the mix and his theory is henceforth held in higher esteem as something "unique".
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PostSubject: Re: Have you ever been pirated?   Have you ever been pirated? - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 5:49 am

A Ahad wrote:
LC wrote:
So someone scanned it and just posted it on their site?

LOL.. Wouldn't that be way too blatant, LC?

Ahad -textbooks are scanned, page by page, and put on pirate sites. So some people with lots of time on their hands don't mind. Smile
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