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Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: THE SPUR (for novelists) Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:14 pm | |
| THE SPUR. Why are you writing a novel? Fame, money, fulfillment, an incomprehensible drive? My story of writing…starting with poetry in college, next short stories, then the long trek across the desert with the occasional oasis of achievement and satisfaction in writing novels. I am in it for fulfillment propelled by an incomprehensible drive, because I am certainly not making any money or achieving fame. |
| | | Dick Stodghill Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3795 Registration date : 2008-05-04 Age : 98 Location : Akron, Ohio
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:24 am | |
| Keep doing it your way. Remember, too, that John Creasey had 100 novels rejected before making his first sale. He went on to sell more than 600. |
| | | Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:58 am | |
| Thanks for responding the way you did Dick. Your reference to John Creasey prompted me to Google him. There's a BBC story that said he wrote more books than anyone alive or dead under 10 different names. I had never heard of Creasey, but now intend to read him. --Ken Crowe |
| | | zadaconnaway Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4017 Registration date : 2008-01-16 Age : 76 Location : Washington, USA
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:04 am | |
| I think that for myself, many years of wanting to write finally piled up on me. The stories are there, but i need to let them out so they will leave me in peace! It is extrememly gratifying to me just to have my writing read and enjoyed. I get emails, phone calls, letters, even hasty notes jotted on little note pads that tell me it is being enjoyed. I may never get rich, but I have a deep sense of accomplishment. |
| | | Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:46 am | |
| Zada, You obviously belong to the bursting school of inspiration. The seeds planted within you had to blossom no matter what. Keep writing, keep blossoming. --Ken Crowe |
| | | lin Five Star Member
Number of posts : 2753 Registration date : 2008-03-20 Location : Mexico
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:25 am | |
| I'm only in it for the money and groupies.
Yet ironically.... |
| | | Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:48 am | |
| lin, My wife would appreciate the money, but not the groupies. --Keep flourishing, Ken Crowe |
| | | zadaconnaway Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4017 Registration date : 2008-01-16 Age : 76 Location : Washington, USA
| | | | JoElle Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1311 Registration date : 2008-05-09
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:43 am | |
| I write because I can't dance, sing, or play an instrument. Well, that isn't entirely true. I mean, really, I can't dance, sing, or play an instrument. That much IS true. But even if I could, I would still write. Like a lot of other writers, I wrote stories and poems in grade school. Did well in English class. Took journalism in high school and won all sorts of awards for that ... and then put "the dream" on hold because of marriage, job, and being a parent. But, and I think most of you will understand this feeling, writing was a part of me. And it was always 'there'. That nagging feeling that I wasn't doing everything I was supposed to be doing with my life. Because I knew I was meant to be a writer and I knew I was not doing what I was meant to do. When my son was about 14 and began working on achieving his own dream of being a firefighter, I realized I had not done anything to reach my own dream. And I knew it wasn't too late. My son achieved his dream of being a firefighter when he turned 18. About a year later I completed my first novel. I've since written four more and have two more I am working on. And I feel a completeness, like I am whole, when I write. That and all those voices and characters and places that live inside of my head won't leave me alone most of the time ... _________________ ~ JoElle MartĂn ~ |
| | | Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:52 pm | |
| JoElle, I feel an incompleteness when I am not writing. After finishing a novel, I take off for three months and at times that gap seems too much. And, I can identify with characters and places singing in your head. Mine do too. Keep writing, Ken Crowe |
| | | Kenneth C. Crowe
Number of posts : 15 Registration date : 2008-07-21 Age : 89 Location : Melville, NY
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:54 pm | |
| Zada, In filling in the missing letter for --it, I realized it must be an l or lit. Isn't it wonderful to be bursting with lit. -ken crowe |
| | | Sue Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1216 Registration date : 2008-01-15
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:32 pm | |
| I write because I HAVE to! Not for the money, or fame, or any of the 'normal' reasons. I just HAVE to!!!!
Hubby wants me to finish books for the money and success. Yea, right on the success.
I want to just get it out of ME! The more I write, though, the more I fill up and overflow. It never stops! I have lost more good ideas, words, characters, information, and you name it, because I couldn't get it down on paper or in a tape recorder.
I guess that is the creative gene in me. Wonder where I got it from? |
| | | zadaconnaway Five Star Member
Number of posts : 4017 Registration date : 2008-01-16 Age : 76 Location : Washington, USA
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:32 pm | |
| - Kenneth C. Crowe wrote:
- Zada,
In filling in the missing letter for --it, I realized it must be an l or lit. Isn't it wonderful to be bursting with lit. -ken crowe Ken, that is delightful! |
| | | Phil Whitley Four Star Member
Number of posts : 907 Registration date : 2008-04-01 Age : 81 Location : Riverdale, GA
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:43 pm | |
| I heard a great interview on Coast to Coast last night. Author Dean Koontz was the guest. He is one of my favorite suspense thriller writers so I paid close attention since the host, Ian Punnett was asking him about his writing habits, likes and dislikes.
One statement stood out for me. Dean said, "I get more joy from writing than from having written."
I know exactly what he means.
Added in edit: I keep coming back to the phrase "Having written", and thinking it should be "Haven written", but that looks like the noun HAVEN.
Those past pluperfect participles always give me (and Word spellchecker) a hard time. |
| | | Malcolm Five Star Member
Number of posts : 1504 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : Georgia
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:08 pm | |
| Yeah, if we're doing it for the money, there's usually going to be a long wait.
Malcolm |
| | | Shelagh Admin
Number of posts : 12662 Registration date : 2008-01-11 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:00 am | |
| - Phil Whitley wrote:
One statement stood out for me. Dean said, "I get more joy from writing than from having written."
I know exactly what he means.
Added in edit: I keep coming back to the phrase "Having written", and thinking it should be "Haven written", but that looks like the noun HAVEN.
Those past pluperfect participles always give me (and Word spellchecker) a hard time. Hi Brew, The past participle of have is had not haven. Same in the pluperfect tense: pluperfect tense | A verb tense used to express action completed before a stated or implied past time. In English the pluperfect tense is formed with the past participle of a verb and the auxiliary verb had, as had learned in He had learned to skate before his fourth birthday. See Grammar, verbs, tenses of.
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http://www.bartleby.com/64/10.html He had learned to skate or having learned to skate but not haven learned to skate. |
| | | Phil Whitley Four Star Member
Number of posts : 907 Registration date : 2008-04-01 Age : 81 Location : Riverdale, GA
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:16 am | |
| Thanks, Shelagh, so I had it right then? "Having written" sounded right and I heard him say it twice. He should know... |
| | | Dick Stodghill Five Star Member
Number of posts : 3795 Registration date : 2008-05-04 Age : 98 Location : Akron, Ohio
| Subject: Re: THE SPUR (for novelists) Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:12 pm | |
| Koontz feels differently about it than some successful writers I know who don't like to write, seeing it as a necessary chore, but are glad they have written stuff. |
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