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Abe F. March
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PostSubject: Personal Identification   Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:40 am

Responding to a post on FB, I wrote the following:

 
An official ID is important.  People must be able to identify themselves.  In Europe, to my knowledge, everyone has a photo ID that indicates citizenship and legal place of residence.  In America one often uses a Driver’s License for identity; however it lacks pertinent or up-to-date information.  People move from one location to another and even State to State.  Although they are required to obtain a new driver’s license within 30-60 days of residence in a different State, many fail to do so.  In Germany, if one moves to another location, he/she must register at the new location, usually at a Police Station.  At one time it was required to obtain a police report from the area/county where one lived (de-registering) and present it to the police at the new location.  Today, that is done electronically when one registers at the new location.  It is important information to know the location of a person in the event of some emergency or some other reason where one’s identify can be confirmed. The registering of refugees is an on-going dilemma where false identifications are being used.  In the US there is resistance to Voter ID’s.  In my view, a person’s Social Security Card with a photo would suffice as an official ID.  It would indicate that the person is legally registered in the US and has the right to work and/or vote.  If one is stopped by the police, this ID would be helpful.  Having an ID is not a new concept.  Every person who served in the Armed Forces was issued a photo ID Card as well as the requirement to wear metal tags (called dog tags) that contained the person’s Blood Type and official ID (Service) Number. 


Covering of any type (Burqa or other) should be removed at the request of the police for positive ID.  All those who are welcomed or allowed into a country should comply with the laws of that country.  Religion is not an acceptable excuse to defy the law.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:25 am

Abe,

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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:05 pm

I have been thinking on this subject.  When I lived in Korea, I was not subject to many of the Korean laws such as curfew.  I had to show my papers and be accosted by military with guns but I did not have to obey the curfew.  I could also gamble at the Casino which was against the law for ordinary Koreans. As a foreigner I had many privileges.  However my driver's license required the same test as Koreans but in English.

In deference to the country in which I lived, I wore my skirts ankle length and did not go sleeveless in public. 

As a Catholic, I always covered my head for church.

I did wear western clothes in the Middle East as a tourist but after several experiences wished I had covered myself completely to not be noticeable.  It was dangerous to look like a tourist.

These are just thoughts and experiences.  I note that Orthodox Jewish people wear special clothing including women wearing wigs to not show their hair (much like the Islam faith).  Also Amish and Quakers and Mormons have special dress for the devout.

I think the issue of dress seems to most effect women.  Men wear their robes and headwear with little trouble.  Dress is always a means to diminish or hide women.  If women choose to be hidden and diminished and are not abused where is the issue?

I do agree that when identification is required to match a photographs for legal reasons, a person should be given respect to provide the proper identification in private if it is a matter of religious preference.  This is just a thought.  Again, it is a thorny subject.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:19 pm

Women always are discriminated against concerning their clothing.  Amish women cannot even have buttons  on their clothing.

I grew up in a religion that did not allow jewelry--not even a wedding ring.
Men could wear cuff links and tie tacs.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:45 pm

Yes, many laws that are cloaked in other wording are in reality laws against women - laws to maintain the power of men over women - and often those laws come from some type of religious direction initially. After all, religions are full of laws and most impact women negatively.

Every where I look men are making laws that deprive women of something.  Women must get into higher echelons of business and politics to protect future generations of young women so they may rise to their full potential without unburdening themselves from the behavior of men.

I've always said find a successful man and you will find a woman who gave her own essence to help him get there - a daughter, a wife, a nurse, a secretary, a mistress, a mother.  Find a successful woman and you will find a woman who struggled alone or sold her soul in order to rise above all that held her back, including men.

Often I have chosen women physicians because I believed they had to work harder and smarter to make it in a world where men believe women should be nurses and helpers, not stand beside them as co-surgeons.

I love men as much as the next woman, but they come with the burden of their peers who are not enlightened as to the advantages of women as partners and even leaders in life instead of arm candy or subservient helpers.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:21 am

Alice, I too grew up in a religion where jewelry was not worn by women.  It was considered "worldly" – a sin.  Women also did not cut their hair since long hair was "the glory of a woman".  Women covered their heads in church either with a hat or a scarf.  As for men, they wore hats, but they were removed when entering the church.  I recall men wearing tie clasps and cuff links.  Infant nursing, even in church, was common.  I remember my mother placing a hanky over her breast when nursing.  Breast feeding was a common sight.  That was before baby formulas came into play and bottles with nipples were used. 
Times changed.  I think the change occurred with the advent of TV.  Women began to cut their hair and wear jewelry.  I could never understand how something that was considered a "sin" suddenly was okay.  It may have been the time when I began to question religion.  Initially watching TV was considered a "sin" and then it became acceptable.  They claimed to that TV allowed them to watch the religious programs and helped those who could not attend church.  (Ha-ha).  Suddenly people were quoting scripture to justify their actions by saying:  "Man looks on the outward appearance, but God looks upon the heart."
Keep in mind that in the early days a woman’s place was in the home.  Those were the days when large families were common and mothers had a full-time job caring for the children.  Change occurred during the war years when women began working in factories to produce war materials.  That phenomenon also occurred in Europe during and after the war when women did much work in cleaning up the rubble and salvaging materials to use for rebuilding.  Women proved themselves capable in jobs formerly held by men.  Men were still looked upon as family providers and women’s participation was an assist.  That psyche has not entirely disappeared even to this day.  I felt it was my responsibility to provide for the family.  When my wife took a job, it was a big assist.  Soon it became the norm.  Child-care Centers became a new business.  With higher education, women sought careers outside the home.  Getting married and having kids upon graduation from High School was no longer the norm. Equal pay for equal work became an issue and is still not the standard till this day. 
DK’s remarks are also pertinent.  Men who became successful were, and still are, the result of having the support of a good wife.  Unfortunately, too many of these wives who sacrificed much to support their husband’s career were never given credit.  Some were discarded when the man found a new or younger woman to satisfy his ego.
We make mistakes.  Useless regretting won’t reverse those mistakes.  My wife supported me in everything I wanted to do sacrificing her own desires.  She was and is a brilliant woman.  Her illness hasn’t affected her mind.  Although her Myasthenia disease makes it difficult at times to form words as the muscles don’t always respond, it has not affected her intellect.  Her memory is as strong as ever.  I am the one with the difficulty with memory, especially with little things.  Writing things down is becoming a necessity.  We depend on each other more as the years go by.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Identification   Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:19 am

Abe,
Fortunately, my understanding has broadened.  Jesus gave me the gift of eternal life and I need not try to earn it by what I wear.
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