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PostSubject: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:57 pm

How dare they execute people by chopping their heads off, is beyond me.

It makes me wonder if they want a war.  What do you think?


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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:07 pm

This video shows how children are first intoduced to beheading:


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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:18 pm

Terrible  and these are people?
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:21 am

Culture is something difficult for those of a different culture to understand.  It is barbaric to be sure.  Methods of killing vary.  America no longer uses hanging, but went to the electric chair and lethal injections.  In the historical past, the UK "off with their heads" wasn't just a slogan, but a reality.  The guillotine was used to cut off the heads.  The difference today is that the west claims to have progressed and look at those who haven't progressed to other forms as wrong and/or barbaric.

Dead is dead regardless of the methods used.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:05 am

The last public beheading in the UK took place in 1746, two hundred and seventy years ago. Just as now in the Middle East, the beheadings were used as deterrents and warnings to the public if they transgressed. The difference between the two is mainly that beheadings in the UK followed a trial, whereas beheadings in the Middle East  are done against innocent people to frighten everyone else into submission; this is barbarism.

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:31 am

Dead is still dead regardless of the methods used.  As for a trial, it was a question of trial by citizens or by government.  The hanging trees were not government sponsored trials. Then there is the question of legitimacy of trials. 
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:25 am

The answer is simple.  Do away with the death penalty. Many innocent people have been executed.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:35 am

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Dead is still dead regardless of the methods used.  As for a trial, it was a question of trial by citizens or by government.  The hanging trees were not government sponsored trials. Then there is the question of legitimacy of trials. 
No easy answer.

If we cannot tell the difference between civilised behaviour and babarism, we may as well revert to living in caves.

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:57 am

Civilized means educated. If someone performs a barbaric act by killing and we punish by killing, are they not both barbaric?
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:11 pm

YES!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:29 pm

Abe F. March wrote:
Civilized means educated. If someone performs a barbaric act by killing and we punish by killing, are they not both barbaric?

Stoning to death, flogging to death, and public beheading are all barbaric acts. To compare such acts to other forms of causing death is to misuse the word barbaric.

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:28 pm

Does it change how we feel about punishment by killing if it is done in a humane manner?  I think it does.  I read on FB how people are appalled when they see how animals are killed/slaughtered in a horrible manner.  If it is done quickly and without much pain it makes it more acceptable.  Those who could tell us how much it hurt or didn't hurt are not in a position to talk.  We can only imagine how horrible it is or isn't.  My take would be that cutting off the head or getting a bullet into the brain would be less painful than the slower death of hanging.  Peforming the act may help us feel better about it, but it still doesn't change the fact that we took a human life.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:19 am

Road deaths exceed gun deaths in the US, but the gap between them is narrowing. If barbarism is just one more way of dying, then our attitude to the causes of death make us no better than uneducated, primitive creatures living in the jungle.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gun-deaths-in-america-projected-to-soon-top-car-fatalities-8426644.html

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:00 am

... and rape is just sex, something that men can do without a women's consent. According to the Mayor of Cologne, women should keep their distance from men or accept the consequences. Muslim behaviour will take away women's rights and undo everything we fought for. It's the reason that Donald Trump will be the next President of the United States: to preserve women's rights and to put an end to political correctness.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-women-are-mocking-the-cologne-mayors-advice-that-they-should-behave-differently-to-prevent-a6799396.html

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:53 am

Are you saying that Trump is a model for Men's behavior.  His record of women doesn't support that view.  It is evident that we are living in turbulent times.  Old values have been replaced with new behavioral standards.  Women's rights are constantly being challenged, especially by the GOP in America.  As Debbit Luby on FB said:  Only those with a Vagina should deal with the subject of Women. 
It is clear that a man's view of world events and even human rights differ from that of women.  I don't know why.  Could it be a hormone thing?  The killing instinct appears to be stronger in men while the loving and caring instincts are greater in women. 

Tolerance has its limits.  Women must speak out and not tolerate any unwanted invasion of their bodies.  Thisa is just one man's POV.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:13 am

Women need to speak out and not wait for years before reporting rape or unwanted invasion of their bodies.   These things cannot be fixed if they are unknown.

Fortunately, times have changed and it is no longer  normal to use corporal punishment on children.
My brother would have been far better off without it.
All children would be better off with kindness instead of violence.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:28 am

Muslim culture denies women's rights. When men violate women, those in power should make it clear that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated, and severe penalities will be imposed on men who mistreat women. If those in power are not willing to take a firm stand against men who rape and molest women, they should stand down and be replaced by those who are strong enough to speak out.

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:10 am

Agree entirely, Shelagh.  TV talk shows in Germany are discussing what happened in Koln, Hamburg and other surrounding communities during the holidays.  The one theme that came to the fore was that men don't respect women from their own country of origin and are bringing that mentality with them.  It makes sense.  How to combat that mentality with so many will be a challenge.  I can't see any clear answer.  One male jerk suggested that women should keep everyone at arms length when they go out.  That was responded to by several women that put the man in his place.  Only a short while ago there was peace without the need for security.  Being inundated with a foreign presence virtually overnight is not something easy to deal with.  It was suggested that women carry pepper spray and I think many will.
My 15 year-old grand daughter in Charlottesville is expected to spend the summer with us.  I would normally not be concerned for her safety, however now I am.  I am a peaceful person, but I can state emphatically that if anyone harmed my grand-daughter, I would find that person or persons and take out my revenge on them.  Since I no longer have the physical capabilities as I once had, I would need an equalizer and that means acquiring a suitable weapon.  Just the thought of her being harmed by anyone is hard to imagine. 
The authorities must act and provide for the safety of the citizens.  How to do that should not be the concern of the citizens.  They are in a position of authority for a reason and it is their duty to find a solution and provide protection.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:54 pm

Abe,

After you granddaughter has been harmed,  the damage will be done.   Be very vigilant
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:07 pm

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                       Look at what's going on here ! The guy in Philadelphia trying to kill
the cop in his car close up and shouting Allah ! Then I read the govt. is keeping quiet
about others that have been captured and now they caught one guy from Iraq in Calif.
and another one in Texas plotting a terrorist act, thank God the American People are
putting their foot down to the President, no foreigners allowed in till we can make sure
we are secure and if the Pres. doesn't like it that's too dam bad we are more important
than the politicians !

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:40 am

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Abe,

After you granddaughter has been harmed,  the damage will be done.   Be very vigilant
so that nothing happens.
Agree Alice.  Vigilance is the best defense.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:04 am

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                  Sorry Abe , I would feel safer here in the USA than in Europe right now,
especially Germany since Merkel opened the flood gates which the American people
will stop and not let the Pres. get his way, we have to have severe protections here
European countries are small here it's huge and vast, 3,000 miles from NY to Calf. 

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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:45 pm

It seems personal safety is on the minds of many. How about safety for strangers we don't know? There are children starving to death in these other war torn lands. As humans I know we need to reach out, and offer them a better place. They don't speak, or dress like you, and me. They have their own customs...but they are human like us. should we lock the door on them for our own safety? If that is the case, I would think we are not as good as we believe we are.
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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:50 pm

Domenic Pappalardo wrote:
It seems personal safety is on the minds of many. How about safety for strangers we don't know? There are children starving to death in these other war torn lands. As humans I know we need to reach out, and offer them a better place. They don't speak, or dress like you, and me. They have their own customs...but they are human like us. should we lock the door on them for our own safety? If that is the case, I would think we are not as good as we believe we are.


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PostSubject: Re: Saudia Arabia Has Its Nerve!   Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:56 pm

Agree Domenic.  Those opposed to charity can always find an excuse.  Safety is everyone's concern, however using fear to turn one's back on the needy is not acceptable.
As for living in the US as a place of safety, I personally don't buy that.  I prefer to live where people don't carry guns.  Exceptions will occur.  There is no perfect safe-haven, however there are places more safe than others.  Why that is true needs to be evaluated.  My opinion on the matter is just my opinion.  Form your own opinion once you become informed.
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