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PostSubject: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:24 pm

How can I believe that no one is bothered by drones flying about and shooting guns attached to them?  Yet when I raised the prospect no one cared, Why?
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:11 pm

Alice, I think that no one really understands the ramifications of such a thing.  I do.  It takes a while for people to be aware.  It takes a while to personalize it. Just like it takes a while for it to sink in that Trump is viable candidate for the presidency, it takes a while.  And mean the while, shit is going on and no one is saying anything about it and all of a sudden, Trump is President and no one can do anything about it.  How to make people aware of their loss of control is the big question.  Perhaps if lessons in reason could help, but, I think people would espouse their taught prejudice than think.  My opinion. I am so sorry. Love, Betty
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:41 pm

Thank you, Betty. I saw one flying on the news and shooting. It scared the daylights out of me.
Especially bad, it was under the control of a teenager and there are no laws against it. I am opposed to drones armed with guns.
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:11 pm

Anyone can buy a drone. I did not know that anyone could arm one.  What trash! Can  a person rich enough to buy a drone actually arm one and point it at someone  and deploy their ammunition?  If so, this is more dangerous than handguns, by far.

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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:13 pm

This article suggests that although it might be possible to arm a drone, the videos to date are in fact fake: 

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/16/quadcopter-drone-fires-gun

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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:20 pm

Thank  you, Shelagh, That makes me feel better.
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:28 pm

The small drones are capable only of lifting their own weight and perhaps an ounce or so more tops--that's it. Also, anyone who has ever fired a gun knows that the recoil would blow the drones that weigh only a few ounces out of the frame even if it were large enough to carry the two or three pound weight of a decent gun--so no one could take the video seriously--I did not. The anti gun folks probably put this out there to cause the usual outcry about the bad guns and the even worse people that own them. I rolled my eyes and changed the channel--as usual.

Now, If you really want to be scared, with just a slightly larger drone, could carry a zip gun that would fire a small, say .22 cal bullet--just one, and the drone would probably either crash or be destroyed by the recoil. But it would work. You can ban all guns everywhere on earth, but you can't take away the simple knowledge of how to create a single shot "zipgun" like street gang members used to make out of the old-style collapsible metal car antennas. No, I never made such a thing, but I could--and so could anyone who is even minimally adept at working with tools and can read. (I don't even need to look up thew instructions for doing it. And though the run of the mill thug is not as smart as I am and probably can't spell "lathe" or "milling machine" let alone know what each is or how to operate it, they can read and do have access to the internet. They also have lots of time courtesy of our liberal policies of giving money to any Tom, Dick and Harriet who asks for it instead of asking them to go to work (preferably not in the business of creating zip guns for fun and profit.)

Now if you REALLY want to worry about something serious about the potential misuse of drones other than to spy on citizens (by the government AND thugs alike), it would be very easy to rig them to carry an ounce or two of plastic explosives--the military grade kind is best if one can get it, but there are ways to cook your own too. (For those less sophisticated anarchists out there, the old-fashioned gunpowder that funded Obama's Nobel Peace Prize works too--oh the double irony of it!). Do I need to write a novel to spell out the possibilities of THAT really scary scenario that everyone misses while worrying about machine-gun toting toys?
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:26 am

Welcome Victor. The plastic explosives are indeed scary.
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:16 am

Whatever can kill, sells. 
I'm waiting for someone who has been ripped off by the government to send a drone to that lawmaker's house.  It might even be a senior whose only source of income has been threatened.  If one is going to die, why not take out those responsible?  Intended as sarcasm, but it could happen.  If a drone can carry a UPS package, it can carry ammo.   
Instead of "Ding dong, Avon calling", it may be "Ding Dong, you're dead."
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:23 am

The most likely use of drones by terrorists is to carry and deploy lethal chemicals. Imagine a drone sprinkling Washington D.C. with a couple pounds of anthrax spores. Scary.
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:43 am

It's coming Al.  A virus is not something visible and is able to kill more effectively than most any weapon built today.  The only exception may be the nuclear bomb.
I used a virus as the weapon in my book:  "They Plotted Revenge Against America."
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:45 am

I don/t like drones.
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PostSubject: Re: You are Joking!   Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:43 pm

It's unfortunate that with all the religious fervor we can't all work at getting along together and sharing this earth in a peaceful way.  We could accomplish so much as one world and stop wasting so many precious people.
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