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PostSubject: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:34 am

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                      I read late last night that Pres. Obama wants to make voting mandatory, like
 Australia, if you don't vote you pay a fine and or go to prison ! That's not freedom and their
 aiming at the poor and immigrants who may one day be  citizens and then he has the nerve
 to say it would changes the areas of the country...First off he himself can't make this law himself,
 it's done constitutionally and only congress has the power, so I think he's whistling in the wind..

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:33 am

Oregon pass a law that people are automatically registered to vote.  I think that is what is meant and it would prevent the voter suppression that is going on.

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:43 am

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                     If I see in any election the politicians who are running aren't worth a
 hill of beans I won't vote and no one a state or federal law can force me to vote, I
 refuse to vote morons back into office and God knows we have hundreds of them.

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:06 am

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Oregon pass a law that people are automatically registered to vote.  I think that is what is meant and it would prevent the voter suppression that is going on.

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:20 pm

I have heard two things that make sense to me.  Automatic registration to vote by those qualified makes absolute sense.  I often thought it should be tied to driver's licenses, state id's and other officially issued id's that indicate a person is voter eligible.  In the process of getting the ID, they are automatically registered to vote. 

Congressional and Presidential elections should also be federal holidays - and public transportation to the polling places free.  I remember when I worked at a large aircraft factory (48000 employees) we could leave work to vote but had to come back with proof of having voted.  I think that was good, too - corporate and business support of voting.  That would save making it a holiday.

Or - make sure early voting includes two full weekends. 

As for mandatory voting, sometimes you need to run a red herring to get close to what is really needed.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:36 pm

I think we have a very intelligent president.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:37 pm

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                             It will never happen, it takes congress to do it, they have the
  power , a President is just a figure head why can't they get that through their
  thick heads, " They Don't Have Power !"  

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:08 pm

Betty Fasig wrote:
I think we have a very intelligent president.
Love,

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:15 pm

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                            I can't figure out these white people who are on the far left, do
  they really believe Socialisim will save them ? No it won't...It only leads to one
  thing worse " Communisum ," ...But our great country has God protecting us from
  fools who think they can change over two hundred years of history and great
  values...2016 will be the year of victory and I don't mean " Hillary, the carpetbagger."

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:20 pm

Agree with Betty. 
Joe, I don't think anyone would ever go to prison for not voting.  That is just another bad rumor and scare tactic by those who try to suppress voting.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:31 pm

What Abe said. 

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:34 pm

I hope it would not be left up to the states.  It would have to be national.  I am getting kind of excited about this.  It is a brilliant way to save the democratic system.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:37 pm

The most wonderful thing is that democracy would be saved by "we the people."  I love that.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:26 pm

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                               As it states....

                              " We the people, For the people and By the people."

                  Just read on another site because it'll be up to Congress which can take years,
  it'll be up to each state to make their own laws and many states don't want to infringe 
  on the publics rights....

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:10 pm

We should start a petition!
Demand it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:10 pm

What he is proposing is a mandatory voting law similar to Australia:

After each election, the Austrailian Election Center will sends a letter to all apparent non-voters requesting that they either provide a valid and sufficient reason for failing to vote or pay a $20 penalty.
If, within the time period specified on the notice, you fail to reply, cannot provide a valid and sufficient reason or decline to pay the $20 penalty, then the matter may be referred to a court. If the matter is dealt with in court and you are found guilty, you may be fined up to $170 plus court costs and a criminal conviction may be recorded against you.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:33 pm

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                              Another form of control !


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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:47 pm

The people who live in a country and are privy to it's benefits have a responsibility to voice an opinion.  It is easy to blame the system when no one participates in the government of the system.  I see it all around me.  Everyone thinks that their voice does not matter.  A mandatory vote makes their voice audible.  I think that the mandatory voting would give people who thought that their little vote did not matter  .... hope... that their opinion does, indeed, matter, and have an impact.  It is all about hope.  Hope that America is not lost to corporate greed.  It is a small thread of hope.  Our president is for the American dream. 
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:06 pm

I'm sorry, but if I have to be made to vote...I shouldn't have the right to vote!!

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:18 pm

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                             Don..

                                     .........


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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:00 pm

I find it odd that there would be a threat for not voiting in America when the complaint centers around being denied the right to vote.  The penalty is in the wrong direction. 
Being registered seems to be the stumbling block.  If any citizen shows up to vote and has some ID that they are a citizen, pre-registration should not be necessary.  In a society where traveling is common, who knows where one will be on voting day?  They should be able to go to any polling station and cast their vote. 
I like the idea of voting day being a holiday.  In Germany, voting is on a Sunday.  Most no one works on Sunday and therefore are available to vote.  What I have observed is that on Sunday morning, people stream out of the church and head to the Rathaus where they cast their vote.  Having voting on a workday can create problems with employers.  Getting permission to leave work for the purpose of voting is a nuisance.  Voting Day, being a holiday, eliminates that problem.

A driver's license is a privilege, not a right.  Voting is a right, not a privilege. Voting should not be a hassle.  JMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:27 am

Voting has long been a system in the U.S. to separate people and control their vote.  It's done by gerrymandering the districts in order to keep electing the same people - who seem to control the boundaries from which they are elected.  It is done by every state having different voting laws.  How can that be when it's one country?  All voting laws, days, etc. should be uniform across the nation.  However political parties use voting restrictions and discouragement as a means to gain their political power and keep it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:43 am

I never heard of all of this.  I will believe it when I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:16 am

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                       Alice

                              If you read the news Media CNN, NBC News they all had coverage,
 but alas it won't happen because it takes Congress to add something new to the
constitution and the President can't do it, he has " NO POWER!, HE"S A FIGURE HEAD."

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PostSubject: Re: Pres. Obama Wants To Make Voting Mandatory !    Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:28 am

It's not a rumor, Abe. I saw/heard him say it in an unedited clip. He did not specifically call for mandatory voting, but praised Australia for having mandatory voting and was clearly implying we should do the same here since he raised the issue. Of course, it would take a Constitutional amendment to mandate voting and either fine or imprison those who refuse to vote (Australia does the former). But the Constitution does not much trouble our current president: through his Justice Department, he has repeatedly ignored laws he does not like and unconstitutionally legislated from the Oval Office on such matters as changing immigration law through the stroke of his "magic pen." He and his like-minded colleagues Pelosi and Reid forced down the throats of Congress a bill they admittedly had not read, with Pelosi famously telling her colleagues that they needed to vote for teh bill before reading it, and on and on. So why not simply dictate by executive fiat that "voting shall now be mandatory?" It would be just as illegal as some of his prior executive orders now myred in the courts but he does not care about damaging the presidency or the country--only about the lack of a legacy after six years of mismanagement and poor judgment aided and abetted by Pelosi and Reid who, unlike he, paid the price for their hubris. How anyone can call him a great president is beyond me. Intelligent, absolutely. Charming, absolutely. But he has been over his head for six years and it shows. True believers will never be able to see that the emperor has no clothes. They will blame Republicans (especially Bush), FOX News, the stupidity of an electorate that "just does not get it" and anything else they can think of as they march in lock step over the precipice following their pie-in-the-sky pied piper all the way down, all the while yelling "yes we can" and "change you can believe in" until they hit the rocks. The rest of us will be left behind to clean the mess.


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